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Black in CMYK output, 100% K or?
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isofa
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Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:52 am Posts: 117 Location: England
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A book I'm working on (heavy with photographs) which will be output in CMYK, has a lot of black backgrounds, should I use just a standard defined black (K=100, C,M+Y=0), or will that be a bit grey on a final print run - would it better to define a solid black colour with a set amount of Cyan for any large chunks of black backgrounds? TIA!
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:47 pm |
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tombolt
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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100% k is usually fine, but for a nice deep black, I usually run a 40% cyan shiner, so 100% k and 40% c.
Watch out if the black touches the black background of the photos though, as this will be an even richer black and you'll see a line where the photo ends. Hope that makes sense!
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:37 pm |
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isofa
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Thanks Tom will give it a go, all the images have a white keyline, so hopefully will be ok!
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:02 pm |
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paulzolo
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You'll have to hope the printer can line the plates up properly then. That's the only problem with printing black made up of a number of colours. Is there a rich Pantone black you cold use instead? Ask your printer for guidance on this.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:41 pm |
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tombolt
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If the printer is using computer to plate (which any decent printer will be) registration shouldn't be a problem, but paul's right, it's always worth asking them for guidance.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:49 pm |
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isofa
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It's definitely CTP, direct from the press-ready PDF with their PDF settings I'll create, but will check anyway. Thanks 
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:15 am |
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isofa
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Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:52 am Posts: 117 Location: England
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Checked and am using a rich black composed of 60C, 50M, 50Y and 100K. Fingers crossed...
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:51 am |
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steve74
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Hmm, that's quite a dense ink coverage, I'd be crossing more than just my fingers! I'd definitely insist on seeing a proof first, or a visit to the printers for a print pass. You may have to weight up that keyline slightly to compensate for any registration problems or ink spread. For example, a 1pt white keyline might end up looking like a 0.5pt keyline (or less) if the ink spreads a little into it. It's always worth asking your printers and see if they can suggest alternative process splits - or maybe a spot-UV will give you that richness in the blacks?
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:27 am |
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