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Black in CMYK output, 100% K or? 
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A book I'm working on (heavy with photographs) which will be output in CMYK, has a lot of black backgrounds, should I use just a standard defined black (K=100, C,M+Y=0), or will that be a bit grey on a final print run - would it better to define a solid black colour with a set amount of Cyan for any large chunks of black backgrounds? TIA!


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100% k is usually fine, but for a nice deep black, I usually run a 40% cyan shiner, so 100% k and 40% c.

Watch out if the black touches the black background of the photos though, as this will be an even richer black and you'll see a line where the photo ends. Hope that makes sense!

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Thanks Tom will give it a go, all the images have a white keyline, so hopefully will be ok!


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Thanks Tom will give it a go, all the images have a white keyline, so hopefully will be ok!

You'll have to hope the printer can line the plates up properly then. That's the only problem with printing black made up of a number of colours.

Is there a rich Pantone black you cold use instead? Ask your printer for guidance on this.

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If the printer is using computer to plate (which any decent printer will be) registration shouldn't be a problem, but paul's right, it's always worth asking them for guidance.

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It's definitely CTP, direct from the press-ready PDF with their PDF settings I'll create, but will check anyway. Thanks 8-)


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Checked and am using a rich black composed of 60C, 50M, 50Y and 100K. Fingers crossed...


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isofa wrote:
60C, 50M, 50Y and 100K. Fingers crossed...

Hmm, that's quite a dense ink coverage, I'd be crossing more than just my fingers!
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I'd definitely insist on seeing a proof first, or a visit to the printers for a print pass. You may have to weight up that keyline slightly to compensate for any registration problems or ink spread. For example, a 1pt white keyline might end up looking like a 0.5pt keyline (or less) if the ink spreads a little into it. It's always worth asking your printers and see if they can suggest alternative process splits - or maybe a spot-UV will give you that richness in the blacks?

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