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Author:  big_D [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:18 am ]
Post subject:  MobileMe, Platform independent NOT
Just seen that MobileMe is upgrading its calendar system and it will on 5th May. If you don't upgrade, then calendars will no longer sync with your Mac or iOS device.

Clicky

Apple wrote:
The new MobileMe Calendar service is an updated calendar service for iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Mac, and PC. It includes:
  • The best calendar service for iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch
  • Calendar sharing with family and friends
  • Calendar publishing for a group or team
  • Event invitations with RSVPs
  • A new web application

The new MobileMe Calendar uses the CalDAV standard so users can view and edit their calendars using the built-in calendar applications on their iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Mac. Windows users can also view and edit their calendars with Microsoft Outlook using the MobileMe Control Panel for Windows.


The prerequisite on the Apple Mac side of things is Snow Leopard 10.6.4 or later, users still on Leopard must upgrade to Snow Leopard in order to continue syncing calendars with MobileMe.

Clicky

Apple wrote:
Summary

It is strongly recommended that all Mac computers you use with the new MobileMe Calendar have Mac OS X v10.6.4 Snow Leopard or later. Mac OS X v10.5.x Leopard is not fully supported, but can still get basic functionality from the new MobileMe Calendar.

Note: To see which version of Mac OS X you are using, choose About this Mac from the Apple menu in the upper left corner. The version will be shown directly under the words "Mac OS X."

Considerations before upgrading to the new MobileMe Calendar:

  • If you have recently synced your MobileMe Calendar with a computer running Mac OS X Leopard, you may receive an alert when upgrading to the new MobileMe Calendar. If you are no longer syncing with any computers running Mac OS X Leopard, you can safely ignore that warning.
  • If you have a computer with Mac OS X Leopard that syncs calendars with the old MobileMe Calendar, you may receive a sync dialogue warning that all of your calendars will be deleted when upgrading to the new MobileMe Calendar. This is expected since part of the upgrade process is to delete your calendars from the old sync system. Additionally, iCal will appear to have no calendars in it until you follow the setup steps at the bottom of this article.
  • Features of the new MobileMe Calendar that are not available with Mac OS X Leopard:
    • Push updates. See this article for more information.
    • The ability to share and accept shared calendars with others from within iCal. These changes can still be made at me.com/calendar.
    • Subscribed calendar syncing.

If you need to sync a computer with Mac OS X Leopard with the new MobileMe Calendar, follow these steps:

Important: Do not follow these steps until you have successfully joined the new MobileMe Calendar. For more information about joining the new MobileMe Calendar, see this article.

  1. Open iCal Preferences.
  2. Click Accounts.
  3. Click the plus button at the bottom of the page.
  4. For both Description and Username, enter your full MobileMe email address, including @me.com or @mac.com. If you don't include @me.com or @mac.com, the setup will not be successful.
  5. Enter your MobileMe password.
  6. Click the disclosure triangle next to Server Options.
  7. For Account URL, enter the following without quotes: "https://cal.me.com". Be sure to include the full URL, including the "https://". Note that you do not need to include a closing "/" at the end of the url.
  8. Click Add.

Now that your MobileMe account is set up, iCal will begin downloading the data from the new MobileMe Calendar servers.

The future is in the cloud, the future is platform independent; as long as you have the latest release of the platform...

The new formatting on the website looks good, but for long time users of Apple kit, who have older machines, it is another nail in that machines coffin, as Apple push you to upgrade to the latest shiny shiny. On the other hand, Windows users can use a 10 year old machine... :?
Author:  steve74 [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MobileMe, Platform independent NOT
This is what's starting to annoy me about Apple, the differences between backward-compatibility on Windows and OS X systems. iTunes is bad enough, you need 10.5.8 to run version 10, so that locks out 10.4 Tiger users from using a new iPod/iPhone/iPad. iTunes is just a music library app, for god's sake, why does it need to have so high Mac system specs to run? The only possible answer is Apple's relentless push on trying to force existing users to buy new Mac hardware.

My G4/G5 systems are perfectly usable machines, reasonably fast and certainly capable enough to run iTunes, but Apple has deemed them obsolete, so you must go and buy a new Mac if you want to sync your new iPod. Meanwhile, on the Windows side you can run iTunes on an XP (SP3) machine - let's not forget that XP is based on a 10-year old system - OK, the SP3 bit came, what, 3 or 4 years ago? But still. Because they want to try and switch Windows users, they made the software work (albeit slowly!) on 10-year old hardware - they could easily do the same on the Mac side if they so wished. New features that use 10.6 technologies could either not work on pre-10.6 systems or use a simpler approach (i.e. fail gracefully) - if they can do it on Windows versions of their software, then it's certainly possible.

Most new Apple software is starting to lock out 10.5 now, especially if you're still on PowerPC Macs - which are still perfectly good Macs for most tasks. What the hell could a calendar syncing platform need that 10.5 couldn't offer? All it's doing is syncing data, surely? I'm at a loss to explain why 10.6 is required for such a basic task, other than because Apple wants you to buy a new Mac!

This is one area that Apple are really starting to p!ss me off - and I've been a Mac user for 15 years+
Author:  tombolt [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:33 am ]
Post subject:  MobileMe, Platform independent NOT
I feel exactly the same way. Until I put a processor upgrade in my home g4, I had to use my wife's netbook for my iPhone. My work g5 is still on tiger as I occasionally need classic.
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MobileMe, Platform independent NOT
steve74 wrote:
This is what's starting to annoy me about Apple, the differences between backward-compatibility on Windows and OS X systems. iTunes is bad enough, you need 10.5.8 to run version 10, so that locks out 10.4 Tiger users from using a new iPod/iPhone/iPad. iTunes is just a music library app, for god's sake, why does it need to have so high Mac system specs to run? The only possible answer is Apple's relentless push on trying to force existing users to buy new Mac hardware.

My G4/G5 systems are perfectly usable machines, reasonably fast and certainly capable enough to run iTunes, but Apple has deemed them obsolete, so you must go and buy a new Mac if you want to sync your new iPod. Meanwhile, on the Windows side you can run iTunes on an XP (SP3) machine - let's not forget that XP is based on a 10-year old system - OK, the SP3 bit came, what, 3 or 4 years ago? But still. Because they want to try and switch Windows users, they made the software work (albeit slowly!) on 10-year old hardware - they could easily do the same on the Mac side if they so wished. New features that use 10.6 technologies could either not work on pre-10.6 systems or use a simpler approach (i.e. fail gracefully) - if they can do it on Windows versions of their software, then it's certainly possible.

Most new Apple software is starting to lock out 10.5 now, especially if you're still on PowerPC Macs - which are still perfectly good Macs for most tasks. What the hell could a calendar syncing platform need that 10.5 couldn't offer? All it's doing is syncing data, surely? I'm at a loss to explain why 10.6 is required for such a basic task, other than because Apple wants you to buy a new Mac!

This is one area that Apple are really starting to p!ss me off - and I've been a Mac user for 15 years+


The parts in bold tell you all you need to know ;)
Author:  smithsocksimon [ Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MobileMe, Platform independent NOT
Shock horror, company that makes stuff tries to sell it!!!!!! Whatever next!

Kidding, slightly. I do feel that Apple should support older Macs to some extent. I can so no technical reason why new iPods shouldn’t be able to sync with older versions of iTunes, for example, though equally I can understand why Apple wants to ensure that the iTunes “experience” is consistent. It’s also a business, and will have a much better idea than anyone else of its user base. Given the level of Mac sales in the past five years, I imagine the number of PowerPC-based Mac users is a tiny percentage of its total user base. Commercially, it makes little sense to invest time and money in maintaining a separate product branch just for those users.

As for MobMe calendar, it’s not true that you can’t use it with Leopard, just that it’s not as well integrated as it is in Snowy. I’m assuming it relies on system components not found in 10.5 (though Apple could, of course, provide these if it felt the need).

Apple clearly wants Mac users to be running the latest software, to enable it to deliver the best software experience. To be fair the company has gone out of its way in the past to support legacy systems — first with Classic, as mentioned, and then with Rosetta — but you can hardly expect it to stagnate. It is, after all, in the business of selling stuff.
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