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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed May 18, 2011 4:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Apple iPhone No.4 in Global Sales, No.1 in Revenue
http://www.ismashphone.com/2011/05/appl ... venue.html

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Cupertino-based gadget giant, Apple, has officially over taken Nokia in terms of revenue. In a recent research conducted by Asymco, Apple has been ranked No. 1 in terms of revenue while in the area of sales, it still has space for growth.

At the end of the first quarter of 2011, results of the study were displayed in graphs, clearly displaying the overall phone market growth.

Apple's iPhone grew at 113% year on year. A comparatively higher growth was measured in a post-holiday quarter and who ever said "the iphone sales are sinking" might need to think twice. It surely is growing as well as gaining share.

The iPhone reached a 5% share of all phones sold in the quarter and managed to become the fourth most popular vendor in the world, beating RIM, HTC, Motorola, Sony Ericsson and ZTE.

Looking moreover at operating profit shares, RIM, Samsung and HTC have maintained profit share in a period of 3 years while Apple and Nokia are the only manufacturers whose profits have mostly shifted.

Three years back Nokia was earning 47% profit share or $2.35 Billion while compared to Apple's first quarter 57% was equivalent to $5.23 Billion, more than twice as much.

So it now makes as much money as the rest of the industry combined. :shock:
Author:  petermillard [ Wed May 18, 2011 5:43 pm ]
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Nice chart showing 'operating profit per phone sold' on Asymco today - here.
Pete.
Author:  big_D [ Thu May 19, 2011 8:34 am ]
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Maybe it has something to do with customer service and repairs... Although I would expect it to do better in sales.

I've had to repair 2 htcs and 4 iPhones this month. The htcs were replaced at our office, we got a new body, we just had to keep the battery and battery cover.

The boss's iPhone 4 has never worked propery - no WLAN and Blutetooth range of 15cm. Apple won't replace defective 'phones. They had to be sent in for repair and the boss has to do without e-mail etc. for 2 weeks, until it is returned or replaced. In the end he bought another iPhone 4, to use while his is away for repair...
Author:  forquare1 [ Thu May 19, 2011 8:44 am ]
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big_D wrote:
Maybe it has something to do with customer service and repairs... Although I would expect it to do better in sales.

I've had to repair 2 htcs and 4 iPhones this month. The htcs were replaced at our office, we got a new body, we just had to keep the battery and battery cover.

The boss's iPhone 4 has never worked propery - no WLAN and Blutetooth range of 15cm. Apple won't replace defective 'phones. They had to be sent in for repair and the boss has to do without e-mail etc. for 2 weeks, until it is returned or replaced. In the end he bought another iPhone 4, to use while his is away for repair...


HTC over here seem to take forever. A mate of mine has been without a phone for over a month because his Desire failed a while ago and HTC wanted him to send it to them.

Different policies in different countries...
Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu May 19, 2011 10:01 am ]
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big_D wrote:
Maybe it has something to do with customer service and repairs... Although I would expect it to do better in sales.

Possibly. Although you'd assume repair/support cost would grow proportionally with sales so over the whole market they'd even out - you get more repair costs if you sell more phones, but if you sell more phones you maker more profit etc. I suspect the picture is actually much too complicated to summarise on one graph. You'd assume some of the costs of Apple retail for example are split between the iDevice and Mac divisions which, given relative revenue, means the iDevices are actually somewhat subsidising Macs, at least as far as the bottom line goes. However HTC make more different models, which means higher average manufacturing costs per device.

This graph is interesting, although not conclusive. Share price is a hugely blunt measure but it does suggest that recently HTC have been improving whereas Apple have been rather static.

Jon
Author:  big_D [ Fri May 20, 2011 8:59 am ]
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I certainly won't be buying another Apple iPhone, based on the treatment I've had so far.

With my 3GS, I had to do without it for 7 of the first 8 weeks of ownership, because it was sent away for repair 3 times, because they couldn't find a fault! The shortest time I had it between repair attempts was 1 hour! It was only when I went into my local T-Mobile store at lunch time, when it was fully packed and spoke in a very loud voice that this was the third time it had been returned un-repaired, that they agreed to send it away and replace it - but I still had to wait 2 weeks for the replacement! As a replacement 'phone during that period, they gave me an old, beaten up Nokia 3310! :shock:

The problem was, the iPhone would switch on, but after a random amount of time, it would cease up and you couldn't turn it on or off for about 8 hours. Every time they got it back at Apple, they could turn it on, run a quick diagnostic and then send it back... Then, as soon as I started to load it up with apps again, it would cease up and die.

My iPhone's earphone socket now doesn't work properly - you have to constantly twist the headphone jack in the socket, until it gets a signal. But due to the above experience, I've decided to live with it - I list to my audio books through the loudspeakers most of the time anyway and I use my Mozart for podcasts.

The same is still true, with the above tale from this week.

Apple's customer service is very poor, compared to the other mobile phones I've had. Nokia have local repair points dotted around in most big cities and T-Mobile/htc will exchange a defective Android or WP7 phone out the next day, wherever you are.
Author:  saspro [ Fri May 20, 2011 10:10 am ]
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That is strange Dave. If I've ever had a problem with my iphones I've just wandered in to my nearest Apple store & they've swapped it out no questions asked.
Author:  steve74 [ Fri May 20, 2011 10:37 am ]
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Sounds as though the problem is mainly with the T-Mobile shop, not primarily with Apple as such. I suspect if you'd taken it into the Apple Store you might have got a faster fix, but I'm not sure you have one nearby.
Author:  big_D [ Fri May 20, 2011 10:38 am ]
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saspro wrote:
That is strange Dave. If I've ever had a problem with my iphones I've just wandered in to my nearest Apple store & they've swapped it out no questions asked.

That is probably part of the problem, there aren't any Apple stores here...
Author:  rustybucket [ Fri May 20, 2011 9:37 pm ]
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big_D wrote:
saspro wrote:
That is strange Dave. If I've ever had a problem with my iphones I've just wandered in to my nearest Apple store & they've swapped it out no questions asked.

That is probably part of the problem, there aren't any Apple stores here...

Yup

"Stability is always inversely proportional to the distance between the computer and the engineer"
Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:07 pm ]
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Just as an update
Linky.

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Given the current valuations, it would not be difficult for Apple to acquire every phone vendor except for Samsung with cash alone.


That's not 'any one of them'. That's all of them.

Jon
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:03 pm ]
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Given the current valuations, it would not be difficult for Apple to acquire every phone vendor except for Samsung with cash alone.

Has Steve Jobs been looking for hollowed out volcanoes for the new HQ? With that sort of money that might be the objective of the company.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:09 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
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Given the current valuations, it would not be difficult for Apple to acquire every phone vendor except for Samsung with cash alone.

Has Steve Jobs been looking for hollowed out volcanoes for the new HQ?

No, he's building a star destroyer instead.


Jon
Author:  Linux_User [ Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:35 am ]
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But a Star Destroyer looks like this. :?
Author:  HeatherKay [ Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:00 am ]
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Linux_User wrote:
But a Star Destroyer looks like this. :?


Yeah, but that's obviously not been across Jonny Ives' drawing board... :lol:
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