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Author: | ProfessorF [ Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:27 pm ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | Why a 2 metre Thunderbolt cable costs $50. | |||||||||
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/06/why-apples-2m-thunderbolt-cable-costs-a-whopping-50.ars Interesting observation about this being Firewire II. |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why a 2 metre Thunderbolt cable costs $50. |
To be honest, I think TB is pretty much overkill in 'consumer' situations. You can get enough speed out of a properly optimised USB2 controller setup to satisfy the needs of anyone outside what you'd call 'enterprise' culture. You're never going to be running huge databases or sophisticated high volume web sites or massive collaboration systems on an iMac or macbook pro. The proper applications for thunderbolt are more sophisticated than your typical 'non pro' needs. The people who need thunderbolt are the enterprise data crowd and music/video production suites. And the enterprise data types would consider $50 for a cable to be just about average (check the price for cat6e or fibre channel kit). The production guys aren't going to be buying tons of them, and rolling a 50 quid cable into the cost of a capture rig that may cost several thousands.. they're not even going to notice it. The only piece of thunderbolt hardware on the market as yet is a RAID disk array that starts at 700 quid with no disk in it. Nobody's buying that kind of stuff for a soho setup and even if they did it'd be running at 10% of it's capacity 99% of the time so it's a huge waste of money. I can see why Apple put it in there and I can see applications for it that consumers would find attractive, but I've seen none of them actually being offered yet. For people who do think 50 quid for a cable is expensive, there is literally no need for them to deal with Thunderbolt at all yet and probably won't be for a while. At which point the cables will presumably be cheaper anyway. Jon |
Author: | forquare1 [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:08 pm ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | Re: Why a 2 metre Thunderbolt cable costs $50. | |||||||||
I think it's perfect for the consumer. The consumer wants things NOW! Enterprise has fibre, etc. for fast connections. With the transfer speeds, TB sticks would take no time at all to copy stuff to, but Apple are charging $50 for a lead, it doesn't sound like it'll become large computing standard like USB... |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:07 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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TB is utterly wasteful for memory sticks. Most of them are so slow they struggle to flood a USB2 connection, which is a fraction of the speed of TB. To flood a TB connection you need an array of fast SSD drives all throwing data down the line at once. The bottleneck with sticks is definitely not the interface.
I'm not entirely sure it's intended to, tbh. They don't ship macs with just TB ports after all. Macs still have USB2 ports, which for the vast majority of applications a 'consumer' would use them for are entirely sufficient. Don't confuse the fact that USB3 has come along with the idea that people actually need USB3/TB speeds. Generally speaking, you don't. The industry is pushing USB3 because we're all drowning in USB2 kit and the market has become so commoditised that there's simply no money to be made selling kit to the few who still need it. USB3 is their way to keep making money and sod what the consumer actually needs. See 3D TVs for another example of this particular business tactic. Put it this way - a 16GB USB2 stick will cost you 12 quid. A 16GB USB3 memory stick will cost you 20 quid. It's probably got exactly the same actual memory chips inside. Think it'll be 50% faster just because you plugged it into the USB3 slot, or do you think it might be a bit faster, then the internal electronics max out? Unless you're transferring GBs of data around day in day out, paying extra for TB over USB2 (let alone USB3) doesn't really make any sense. Jon |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why a 2 metre Thunderbolt cable costs $50. |
For me it will not be until the next upgrade that I will consider it. It looks promising though it will require an upgrade to drives as well, which adds to the costs. |
Author: | rustybucket [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Why a 2 metre Thunderbolt cable costs $50. |
Pffffft! Active cabling ![]() If your interface has to use active cables, you didn't design the interface correctly. |
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