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timark_uk
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The machine specs have been released. Also, you don't need to have Lion to upgrade as Snow Leopard users can upgrade directly. \•/ Mark
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| Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:01 pm |
 
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HeatherKay
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I'm still not clear whether my MBP is capable or not. My particular model doesn't seem to actually appear in the listings. I fear it most likely isn't supported, so it's Lion all the way for me until I can afford a new shiny.
_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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jonbwfc
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I'd have thought given the changes don't seem too fundamental, anything that can run Lion can run Mountain Lion.
Jon
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| Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:16 pm |
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EddArmitage
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Polly can't have Mountain Lion.
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| Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:39 pm |
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timark_uk
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forquare1
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Ars seems to think that some older graphics cards might be the culprit. Something to do with using 32-bit graphics drivers. We already knew about EFIs that couldn't do 64-bit, as that was the restriction for Lion, IIRC. I'm happy at the moment, I bought two Macs last year which are both supported. I've been running the Developer Preview for several months now and going back, I find Lion strangely different. Mountain Lion all the way!
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HeatherKay
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This is what confuses me.
Stratocruiser is running 64-bit Lion. It's at the low end of the min RAM specs, but system profiler tells me almost all the apps I'm running are now 64-bit. The CPU is a 2.33GHz Core 2 Duo, which is higher than the basic one listed in those specs.
Theoretically, it will run Mountain Lion. But this actual model doesn't appear in the spec list: MacTracker identifies it as being discontinued in June 2007.
I guess we'll see. I am already resigned to not being able to run ML, so it won't be terribly painful if the old girl turns out to be obsolescent come the autumn.
_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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paulzolo
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My MBP is just one revision too old. So no ML for it. My MacPro will run it. The immediate problem is whether my ageing copy of Photoshop will work. I have no “stunt Mac” to test this time.
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| Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:46 am |
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forquare1
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The problem is, I think, that you can have the OS X kernel running in 32-bit mode running on 64-bit hardware and running 64-bit apps. Some machines can't/won't run a 64-bit kernel ( supported 64-bit kernels in 10.6). See here for instructions on how to find out if you are currently using a 64-bit kernel. The problem with a 64-bit kernel is you can't run 32-bit kernel extensions, so some of the older graphics cards that have 32-bit drivers won't run in 64-bit mode. Mountain Lion requires you to run a 64-bit kernel. It's all a bit messy in my opinion... **NOTE** All of the above is one big 'I think'!
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HeatherKay
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Ah, it's not a 64-bit kernel and extensions. No Mountain Lion for me then. I can stop worrying.  _________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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davrosG5
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Looks like my MacPro just squeezes onto the list (2008 version) although I have put a Radeon 5770 in it so I should be okay on the graphics front.
The question is... can I actually be bothered?
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Fogmeister
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I just realised that the rumoured date is the day after tomorrow! WOOOOO!! Really can't wait for Mountain Lion. There are a number of changes to the APIs that I've been looking forward to. I also want to start Mac Dev and got a few ideas of apps I'm going to write. At least one app will be written for a presentation at work 
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forquare1
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I've been running the DP since it was released and I'm very pleased with it.
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Fogmeister
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Don't you need to pay to be a Mac Developer? I wasn't sure if I needed to pay again (having already paid for iOS dev)? When I tried to download it told me I wasn't eligible to download it. 
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forquare1
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Yes, it is a separate payment.
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