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I gave my other half my old iPhone 3GS. I copied across her contacts from her SIM card, but the iPhone keeps removing them from the Contacts app and I have to go into the Settings app and reload them every time.

This isn't a good solution, if she has to re-import her phone numbers every time she wants to make a phone call or send an SMS!

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When does it remove them? Is it ok until reboot? Or does it happen like 5 minutes after import?

Where are the contacts imported to, the iPhone or iCloud? If the latter then is iCloud setup correctly?

Does she have any iCloud addresses that could be overwriting the imported ones?

If you can, I would import them then sun te phone to her computer so the contacts are saved to that, then possibly look at wiping and restoring the iPhone and using the computer as a source for contact info.


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If it was me I'd just bung all my contacts into Google and then sync my phone*

*that is, of course, assuming the iPhone has the same functionality as any other handset.

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Dave, are these contacts on the parent computers address book, or just the phone?

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If it was me I'd just bung all my contacts into Google and then sync my phone*

*that is, of course, assuming the iPhone has the same functionality as any other handset.


You certainly could do this, but it was a tad fiddly IIRC. Or perhaps that was Google Calendars...


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When does it remove them? Is it ok until reboot? Or does it happen like 5 minutes after import?

Random, but more like 2 minutes to 10 minutes.

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Where are the contacts imported to, the iPhone or iCloud? If the latter then is iCloud setup correctly?

She doesn't have an iCloud account. The phone simply imports them into the Contacts app, but it doesn't seem to sync them with her Yahoo! mail account.

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Does she have any iCloud addresses that could be overwriting the imported ones?

No, just Yahoo! and that is just e-mail addresses, no number and 90% of the names don't match up to be overwritten.

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If you can, I would import them then sun te phone to her computer so the contacts are saved to that, then possibly look at wiping and restoring the iPhone and using the computer as a source for contact info.

Might give that a try, but she hasn't connected it to a computer yet.

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Dave, are these contacts on the parent computers address book, or just the phone?

The contacts are just on the SIM card, she has never had a Google, Apple etc. account and used Yahoo! only for e-mail (about 15 addresses), the phone numbers are 100% from the SIM card, until now she has had dumb phones.

I've convinced her to bite the bullet and enter them all on-line into Yahoo!, so she will do that, when she has time to use her computer, probably next week some time.

Apart from the SIM problem, she finds the device a fun "toy", but it is missing several "standard" features:
1. Looking at the phone on the table, she cannot see if anybody has called or sent an SMS, she has to physically turn on the display and unlock. The old 50€ Nokia blinks a blue LED at her, if there are waiting messages.

2. The display gets even more greasy than the Nokia one - mainly because you type and prod the glass display, as opposed bashing away on real keys.

But she is starting to get used to it.

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The old 50€ Nokia blinks a blue LED at her, if there are waiting messages.

A blue LED so bright you can see it from the next room through closed eye lids!
The HTC has a little green one which is more discrete. I'm surprised there's no message indication at all on the iPhone.

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big_D wrote:
The old 50€ Nokia blinks a blue LED at her, if there are waiting messages.

A blue LED so bright you can see it from the next room through closed eye lids!
The HTC has a little green one which is more discrete. I'm surprised there's no message indication at all on the iPhone.


There is. It normally makes some noise or other, unless it's been turned off.

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To be honest, I hate that the Blackberry does flash. I know you've got an email/text/missed call, I heard you when you started winging and rumbling on my desk! I'll get to you in a minute...And my iPhone is almost always in my pocket. The only time it isn't is when it's sitting right by my keyboard or I'm in the shower...Or if I'm using it, I guess...

Perhaps it's useful to people who go about the place leaving their communications device elsewhere...?


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ProfessorF wrote:
Dave, are these contacts on the parent computers address book, or just the phone?

The contacts are just on the SIM card, she has never had a Google, Apple etc. account and used Yahoo! only for e-mail (about 15 addresses), the phone numbers are 100% from the SIM card, until now she has had dumb phones.

I've convinced her to bite the bullet and enter them all on-line into Yahoo!, so she will do that, when she has time to use her computer, probably next week some time.

Apart from the SIM problem, she finds the device a fun "toy", but it is missing several "standard" features:
1. Looking at the phone on the table, she cannot see if anybody has called or sent an SMS, she has to physically turn on the display and unlock. The old 50€ Nokia blinks a blue LED at her, if there are waiting messages.

2. The display gets even more greasy than the Nokia one - mainly because you type and prod the glass display, as opposed bashing away on real keys.

But she is starting to get used to it.



Are all her numbers stored on the machine that she syncs it with?

She shouldn't need to unlock the phone to check if she's missed anything - on mine you just prod the home button, the screen illuminates (but doesn't unlock of course) and there's the notification.
Greasy displays - give it a wipe. Problem solved.

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To be honest, I hate that the Blackberry does flash. I know you've got an email/text/missed call, I heard you when you started winging and rumbling on my desk! I'll get to you in a minute...And my iPhone is almost always in my pocket. The only time it isn't is when it's sitting right by my keyboard or I'm in the shower...Or if I'm using it, I guess...

Perhaps it's useful to people who go about the place leaving their communications device elsewhere...?

The Blackberry is extremely useful for providing visual cues when it's set to silent (not vibrate), particularly as you can customise the LED colour according to what kind of notification it is (e.g. red for e-mail, green for SMS, blue for Facebook etc).

LED notifications is one of the reasons I love the Galaxy Nexus.

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JJW009 wrote:
big_D wrote:
The old 50€ Nokia blinks a blue LED at her, if there are waiting messages.

A blue LED so bright you can see it from the next room through closed eye lids!
The HTC has a little green one which is more discrete. I'm surprised there's no message indication at all on the iPhone.


There is. It normally makes some noise or other, unless it's been turned off.

But it doesn't make a noise until you look at the message. The Nokia and htc devices make a sound, then the LED blinks until you look at it.

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To be honest, I hate that the Blackberry does flash. I know you've got an email/text/missed call, I heard you when you started winging and rumbling on my desk! I'll get to you in a minute...And my iPhone is almost always in my pocket. The only time it isn't is when it's sitting right by my keyboard or I'm in the shower...Or if I'm using it, I guess...

My GF leaves the phone in the corner of the kitchen most of the time, especially when she is in the garden. When she comes back into the kitchen, she can glance at the Nokia sitting in the corner and tell instantly whether she has received a call. With the iPhone, she has to actually go over to the phone and turn it on.

You can disable the light on the htc devices, I would think you can do the same on the RIM, if it annoys you.

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Are all her numbers stored on the machine that she syncs it with?

No, the numbers are all on the SIM card. Full stop, end of story. She has never used a personal organiser software or web mail account to store contacts. They are either in her paper addressbook or on the SIM card.

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She shouldn't need to unlock the phone to check if she's missed anything - on mine you just prod the home button, the screen illuminates (but doesn't unlock of course) and there's the notification.
Greasy displays - give it a wipe. Problem solved.

Mine only shows appointments on the lock screen - but I still have to go over to the phone and turn it on to see. With the Nokia and the htc, you can see from 5M away, whether you have a message or not.

The eldest daughter's LG feature phone is the worst, that buzzes every 2 minutes, until you look at the bloody SMS! :evil:

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The Nokia and htc devices make a sound, then the LED blinks until you look at it.
What an unnecessary waste of the battery charge. (8+\
I'm not saying it couldn't be useful in limited situations, I just think it's wasteful if it's flashing away for, say, 12hrs when you are nowhere near your phone and you got a message.

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big_D wrote:
The Nokia and htc devices make a sound, then the LED blinks until you look at it.
What an unnecessary waste of the battery charge. (8+\
I'm not saying it couldn't be useful in limited situations, I just think it's wasteful if it's flashing away for, say, 12hrs when you are nowhere near your phone and you got a message.

It's a very brief flash and it's not that often. Battery drain is negligible, and a lot of people do think it's a great feature. I know I like it. It was one of the features that made me go "ooh, someone has really put a lot of thought into this". In many ways, the Nokia 6300 is the perfect phone. It's indestructible, light and small. It does email and stuff if you need it to, and it plays Mines. The battery lasts for a week easily - I know because I never charge mine on holiday, and it's quite a few years old now. If the battery does ever need replacing, they're only a couple of quid.

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