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Author: | Amnesia10 [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:19 pm ] | |||||||||
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/thursdays-movers-tech-stocks-hit-by-pc-shipments-2013-04-11
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Author: | jonbwfc [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blackberry Z10 returns are now exceeding sales |
Have to be honest, I had a Z10 on test for a month and I was pretty impressed with it as a phone. The app store was a joke, but the device itself was lovely. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:50 am ] | |||||||||
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Did you notice it slowing down? |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:19 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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No. I don't remember ever waiting for it to do anything, let's put it that way. |
Author: | big_D [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blackberry Z10 returns are now exceeding sales |
How can people be returning more phones than they have bought? |
Author: | ProfessorF [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:07 pm ] | |||||||||
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I read it that after an initial sales spike, no more are selling but those that were sold are now being returned. |
Author: | JJW009 [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:34 pm ] | |||||||||
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When they say "now exceeding" they mean today or some other recent interval of time, which I thought was perfectly clear from the wording. If you draw a graph of sales and returns against time (on nice squared paper and using a sliding average over a day or so to smooth it out, with the chosen intervals marked on the axis for clarity), then returns exceed sales for the most recent measurements. If you then integrate from time = launch to time = now (by counting the squares under the graph, if you like) to obtain the total figures, then the area representing sales will exceed that representing returns. In an extreme example, if no one has bought any today then a single return is more than they've sold in the same interval (today). The fact that the interval is not stated in the headline really is not important, since it's merely intended to communicate a highly unfavourable returns rate. "Now" can be taken to mean today or yesterday or this week with no effect on the message. I think everyone except for you knows what it meant! |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blackberry Z10 returns are now exceeding sales |
Blackberry are saying it's not true CLICKY |
Author: | koli [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blackberry Z10 returns are now exceeding sales |
Detwiler is the same company that said the Q10 would be delayed until June. Which is clearly not the case... |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:01 pm ] | |||||||||
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The actual numbers could be true if so few Americans actually know its on sale, or that they would not buy one. I suspect that the initial claim came from a single source who might have had a lot of returns, though so soon after launch is not a good sign. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. |
Author: | james016 [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Blackberry Z10 returns are now exceeding sales |
Since this has come from an analyst, the opposite is most likely to be the truth. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:27 pm ] | |||||||||
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Plus even as an iPhone user I want there to be a competitive market for phones that includes Windows and Blackberry. I think that the analysts are all speculating on who gets knocked out next. The analysts are usually wrong but then there are problems with companies declaring shipments as sales so many of those sales are still in the store waiting for a mug to buy them. |
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