I'm the same as John, I use Microsoft Defender on my private machines.
At work, we have Kaspersky, which is centrally manageable. Although I'm not happy with the new version, it has started issuing its own SSL certificates for all websites and essentially does a man-in-the-middle attack on all web traffic to be able to monitor it.
That means you can no longer look at a site's certificate, to see whether the site is legitimate or not.
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