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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Not for damaged items, much easier for lost (or in the case of eBay buyers, "lost") ones.
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Thu May 12, 2011 10:43 am |
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saspro
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:53 pm Posts: 8603 Location: location, location
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ebay will not give a refund on a damaged item until it is proved to be returned to you. For damage in transit, the buyer has to sign for the parcel as damaged to prove that. If they didn't then it's their fault.
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Thu May 12, 2011 1:11 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Oh. I was told by another seller that if eBay found against me I'd lose both my money and the iPod. Is that not correct?
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Thu May 12, 2011 1:18 pm |
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saspro
Site Admin
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:53 pm Posts: 8603 Location: location, location
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You got told wrong. The case system (that you should be communicating through) states that if it's found in the buyers favour then they have to return the goods & when you receive it then the refund is given (then you appeal and get their paypal account frozen)
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Thu May 12, 2011 3:09 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Bugger, I've pressed the "have buyer return item for refund" button now. I'll have to remember that for next time. In the mean time, I'm looking forward to filing county court papers. 
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Thu May 12, 2011 3:39 pm |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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Why didn't you fight it? The guy took 3 weeks before he reckons something was wrong. The thing is what would be the point of court papers now? You've already accepted responsibility by giving a refund.
_________________ Fogmeister I ventured into Solitude but didn't really do much. jonbwfc I was behind her in a queue today - but I wouldn't describe it as 'bushy'.
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Thu May 12, 2011 6:46 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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If this was 4chan, a group of us would have gone down and got you your refund! 
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Thu May 12, 2011 7:37 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Because from my Googling, it seemed very likely that I would have lost anyway, and another seller advised me that if the buyer escalated the case and I lost, I'd lose both the money and the item. It's only now Saspro has advised otherwise that I can see sticking with it might have been the better option. [/quote] Because unlike eBay, I can submit photos into court, which would show the difference in condition, thus suggesting the buyer caused the damage.
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Thu May 12, 2011 7:45 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Do you have to confirm the return before a refund is given?
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Thu May 12, 2011 8:12 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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They're supposed to provide eBay with a tracking number, I'm not sure what happens if they send me a blank envelope* *in terms of eBay, that is. My first action will be to call the Police...
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Thu May 12, 2011 8:17 pm |
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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Photograph package received as the tracking code will be visible on it?
_________________TwitterCharlie Brooker: Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults; computers for scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for people who earnestly believe in feng shui.
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Thu May 12, 2011 9:11 pm |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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Some people have been returned a brick or similar. Very hard to prove that with photos, unless the courier is willing to be a video witness as you open it. That's not going to happen. There's a real problem with the law - when it's nothing more than one person's word against another, there's simply no case to be had. Even photographic evidence is worthless. Many people have pictures of goods in perfect condition which could later be used when the goods were broken. EXIF data can be changed, and is usually wrong anyway because no bugger ever sets the camera's date.
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Thu May 12, 2011 11:55 pm |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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TBH I would expect even ebay would eventually ask the question of the buyer 'why did you wait 3 weeks if it was damaged when it arrived?'.
_________________ Fogmeister I ventured into Solitude but didn't really do much. jonbwfc I was behind her in a queue today - but I wouldn't describe it as 'bushy'.
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Fri May 13, 2011 6:26 am |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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I got the iPod back today, Here's before I sent it:  Uploaded with ImageShack.usHere's after:  Uploaded with ImageShack.us(!) To me it looks like they've dropped it. Anyhoo, I have filed my papers at the County Court today. Here's hoping I win!
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Wed May 18, 2011 1:54 pm |
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Fogmeister
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:35 pm Posts: 6580 Location: Getting there
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Can't see your pics at work but I'll have a look tonight.
Fingers crossed that you get compensation for this.
I really can't stand dodgy little tw*ts like this guy obviously is.
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