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i think/believe that the release of information in regard to other lesser mortals (murdered or otherwise) that have been allegedly phone hacked is an avenue to protect the politicians and others of there elk using the excuse it happened to them (lesser mortals) so we must protect them and as a side line it also protects US (but we won't/must not mention that fact) ...

Yes but if it exposes the hypocrisy of politicians then should be excused. In fact this was only a problem because they deleted messages to make more space for new ones. Under such circumstances shouldn't the telecoms companies provide as much space as necessary automatically? As for hacking into the accounts that is already covered under the computer misuse act AFAIK. The payments to police are already illegal, it just was not enforced. The information was there though the police did not investigate because they were corrupt.

The Police are in just as much trouble as the NOTW as far as I am concerned.


the police investigating the police, that should be interesting ...

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i think/believe that the release of information in regard to other lesser mortals (murdered or otherwise) that have been allegedly phone hacked is an avenue to protect the politicians and others of there elk using the excuse it happened to them (lesser mortals) so we must protect them and as a side line it also protects US (but we won't/must not mention that fact) ...

Yes but if it exposes the hypocrisy of politicians then should be excused. In fact this was only a problem because they deleted messages to make more space for new ones. Under such circumstances shouldn't the telecoms companies provide as much space as necessary automatically? As for hacking into the accounts that is already covered under the computer misuse act AFAIK. The payments to police are already illegal, it just was not enforced. The information was there though the police did not investigate because they were corrupt.

The Police are in just as much trouble as the NOTW as far as I am concerned.


the police investigating the police, that should be interesting ...

Yes self regulation again! I do like the American idea of a separate police force who only investigate the police. So much less corruptible.

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Well, this is handy:

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News International is planning to relieve the pressure on its beleaguered chief executive, Rebekah Brooks, by claiming she was on holiday when a mobile phone belonging to Milly Dowler was hacked into in 2002 by the News of the World, the paper she edited at the time.

The Guardian understands that the company has established that Brooks, News of the World editor from May 2000 until January 2003, was on holiday in Italy when the paper ran a story which referred to a message that had been left on the teenager's phone.


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News International also believes Brooks was away in the two weeks following the murder of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in Soham. It is thought that mobile phones belonging to the parents of the two girls were targeted in the days following their death.


How about that, then? On holiday during two big stories. I hope that NI isn’t massaging the past to get Brooks out of a sticky situation. Anyway, this focusses attention on Andy Coulson again:

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That is likely to focus attention on Andy Coulson, who was Brook's deputy at the time, and would normally have edited the paper in her absence.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/ju ... ne-hacking

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How about that, then? On holiday during two big stories. I hope that NI isn’t massaging the past to get Brooks out of a sticky situation. Anyway, this focusses attention on Andy Coulson again:

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That is likely to focus attention on Andy Coulson, who was Brook's deputy at the time, and would normally have edited the paper in her absence.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/ju ... ne-hacking

And on Cameron's decision to appoint Coulson.

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Although Cameron's decision making skills come into question, again, I can't help but feel it's aimed somewhat as diverting come attention away from NI.

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Although Cameron's decision making skills come into question, again, I can't help but feel it's aimed somewhat as diverting come attention away from NI.

Yes we do need to concentrate on the police corruption and NI criminal activities.

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Relatives of fallen servicemen now.

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Dead soldiers' families 'hacked by newspaper'

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Phones owned by relatives of dead UK soldiers were allegedly hacked by the News of the World, a national newspaper reports.

The Daily Telegraph claims the phone numbers of relatives of dead were found in the files of private investigator Glenn Mulcaire.


Bloody hell. It would be easier to total up the number of UK mobile phones that weren't (or aren't) being hacked. More from BBC here.

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Amazing how the police failed to find this enormous avalanche of wrong doing the first time round eh?

Update : Just seen the BBC news late headlines - NI shares have fallen significantly as the likelihood of arrests grows and the likelihood of a quick buyout of BSkyB recedes. Allegedly, it's knocked $600m off the Murdoch family's personal fortune. I don't care if you are filthy rich, that's got to hurt :lol:.

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Amazing how the police failed to find this enormous avalanche of wrong doing the first time round eh?

Update : Just seen the BBC news late headlines - NI shares have fallen significantly as the likelihood of arrests grows and the likelihood of a quick buyout of BSkyB recedes. Allegedly, it's knocked $600m off the Murdoch family's personal fortune. I don't care if you are filthy rich, that's got to hurt :lol:.

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Well the rest of us will call it Karma.

I have to agree I am surprised that the police uncovered so little before. On News night the general opinion was that the coverup has been worse for the police and the crown prosecution service. They will now have act and that might mean lots of coppers in gaol. Well it will save redundancy.

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Looks like Crimewatch presenters may have been targeted, with some personal details in the hands of the NoW PI that are really only accessible by someone within the Police. Channel 4 clicky

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In 2002 a BBC Crimewatch report investigating a notorious unsolved murder featured senior detective Dave Cook. Later, Cook realised he was being followed after colleagues informed him he was being targeted by journalists at the News of the World.

So concerned were police that a witness protection unit was mobilised along with a counter surveillance team to watch journalists allegedly following Cook.

When finally confronted, the News of the World apparently said they were interested in whether Dave Cook was having an affair with a Crimewatch presenter Jacqui Hames. They were in fact married at the time.

Jacqui Hames told Channel 4 News that she has been contacted by Operation Weeting detectives investigating the phone hacking scandal.

On Wednesday she voiced fears that her personal details had been sold by someone in the police force to the News of the World.


Nice excuse, oh we're just seeing if they're having an affair.... Right, they were frakin married at the time.

It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow with the planned take over talks. Father and Son discussing the deal of ownership. Nothing to see there then. :roll:

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FFS this is getting well out of hand :x

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Nice excuse, oh we're just seeing if they're having an affair.... Right, they were frakin married at the time.

Wow all that time and that is the best excuse they could come up with? No wonder the police are in trouble over this.

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FFS this is getting well out of hand :x

Oh I suspect that there is much more to come out about this.

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Royal British Legion severs links with News of the World over phone hacking Telegraph clicky

Advertisers have also been withdrawing planned adverts from NoW and it's spread to NI with mumsnet removing theirs from the Sky network.

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