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pcernie
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-29911712I can't help thinking a little less drudgery would do more good in schools.
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MrStevenRogers
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schools have become little fiefdoms of dictatorship education has become secondary
very happy my children have left school and are now working ...
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:14 am |
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ProfessorF
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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The nation appears to be handing over parental duties to schools and teachers.
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:33 am |
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timark_uk
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm Posts: 12143 Location: Belfast
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The clue is in the name : uniform. You can't have a non-uniform uniform, because then it's not a uniform. If people find it so god damn difficult to dress as they should, well, screw them.
Mark
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:38 am |
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MrStevenRogers
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i have worn a uniform of one kind or the other for most of my life but these uniforms were issued to me and everyone else so the standard was set and uniform for everyone
when asking (demanding) every parent to supply a uniform, even within in a set code, this will be done to the available budget which will be different for each parent if schools require a set standard of uniform code for each and every pupil then the schools must supply the uniform (at the schools cost and expense) and issue it to the pupils
so the high standards, that the schools require, can be maintained to their very own requirements ...
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:00 am |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Uniforms are much cheaper than they used to be. Back in my day you couldn't get uniforms from Asda etc. The ties/jumpers etc had to come from a specialist shop. I was just grateful our school didn't have blazers.
Today they are as cheap as normal clothes. So there's no real extra cost over normal clothes* as kids have to wear something. (* except for schools that do have blazers)
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:25 am |
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big_D
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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At school we had fixed uniforms. The blazers, shirts, ties and trousers could be purchased at a local tailors. Black or brown leather shoes, no gym shoes (they weren't called trainers back then).
If you didn't buy from the tailor, you took your chances of being sent home.
Not sure why parents are so surprised. I guess discipline isn't what it used to be.
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:56 am |
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MrStevenRogers
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apparently this not the case as described within the title whatever is purchased (from Asda or any other store) does not meet the high requirements of this and other schools if that being the case then let the schools provide the required standard of uniform at their cost and expense so all pupils within that school meet these requirements there ending the problem of hundreds of pupils being sent home the schools want these rules then the schools can pay for the requirement of these rules (they can use the teachers pension fund to cover the cost of this so parents do not have too) ...
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:15 am |
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timark_uk
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm Posts: 12143 Location: Belfast
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Right, well, if that's the way you want it ... you don't have to send your kid to that school if you don't like the rules of it. Mark
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:47 am |
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cloaked_wolf
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Don't see why there should be any issue with this.
When I was at secondary school in the 90s, we had a set school uniform that could be purchased either through the school or at certain stores (eg Clive Marks). Blazers were standard shape and just varied in size. Badges and ties were purchased through the school. Trousers and shirts could be puchased anywhere but they had to be a certain colour (white, blue or grey IIRC). Jumpers had to be v-necked and of a certain colour (I think grey or navy blue). Shoes had to black, leather and laced. No velcro nonsense. There were restrictions on hair styles, piercings and other things. There was even a list of recommended stationery (eg 2x2HB pencils, 2x4HB pencils, wooden ruler etc). PE kits had to be purchased through the school.
This was all laid out in information given to kids before starting school - I think we had an induction day during the last week of the summer holidays. Nobody argued. Nobody turned up in the wrong clothes. Nobody ever got sent home unless they managed to dirty their clothes during play time. I saw nothing wrong with it back then and I see nothing wrong with it now. The clothes might have been costly but we came from a relatively low income family and priorities were made - school/education/food over games/TV/pocket money etc.
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:49 am |
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rustybucket
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Pffft! Nothing to see here. The parents were told of the uniform requirements in advance and were also told that any pupil not wearing the correct uniform would be sent home.
The parents didn't buy the correct uniform and the children were sent home.
Well done Hanson Academy.
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:55 am |
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jonbwfc
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Are the uniform requirements rules available to view anywhere public? I know there's been reported cases of schools tieing up deals such that uniforms have to be bought from a particular supplier which lead to price gouging. Could this actually be an organised protest? As an aside, I think I know which side the BBC are actually on, given the image of the headmaster they chose to use  .
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:19 am |
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paulzolo
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Uniform rules are made by the governors and, believe it or not, parent groups. They are not made by the teachers. I have heard of incidents where if your clothes did not have a certain style of embroidery on it then it did not meet uniform requirements. Found it: http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/1 ... iform_row/That’s when things start to go off the rails because there’s a clear commercial interest at work that trumps affordability. If a school mandates a certain style black trousers, it should not dictate where they come from. The embroidery could easily be supplied as a patch that can be sewn on. I know of one primary school here where the parents are up in arms because the new uniform is not as posh as another school. The new uniform includes ties, shirts and blouses (instead of sweatshirts), but the parents also want hats and blazers. Hats and blazers would add significantly to the cost of a school uniform, and being a primary school will need to be changed every year as the kid grows up, or it gets damaged. Parents, eh? Maybe they should fund everyone’s uniform  .
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:28 pm |
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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From the BBC article so is she saying her daughter has not chnaged her foot size since she was 11?? Also they are really good shoes if they are lasting an 11-13 yr old 2 years and not wareing out
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Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:41 pm |
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