That's true but it would be possible for Apple to intercept the touches and the pencil at an OS level before passing it to an app.

If the pencil is connected and is one of the registered touches then only send that one to the app. That way the app wouldn't have to explicitly support it.

Could do even more if the app writer decided to support it also.


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Might be worth checking the footage of the Pencil from the show to see if it looks like palm rejection is in. With the iPad Pro, I'd think it'd be hard to draw on it and not make contact wit the screen unintentionally quite often.

Will be going to an Apple Store to give one a go. That's really the acid test.

That is pretty much how other companies have done it up until now.

According to Macworld the Apple TV includes a USB-C port so I guess it's possible there may be other options for sound output rather than over HDMI although even if that's true it would mean additional cost on top of what is already going to be a fairly expensive 'box compared to the competition.

IIRC the USB ports on the Apple TV have always been 'for service department use only' i.e. stuff like reflashing firmware and what have you. You've never been able to plug anything in that does something useful. That could change with this one of course.

You might be able to get a HDMI - > HDMI Passthrough and Optical Audio out breakout box, but that's another box and another thing that'll need a plug socket.

Or it's a feeble excuse to buy a new amp .

I haven't bothered watching the keynote, but what's the reason for adding storage of 32Gb or 64Gb - they made a big deal of removing storage when the 2nd generation came out to make it a streaming box. I'm assuming the storage is reserved for apps and games and not for general use like storing videos, music or photos?

In other news, I've noticed more and more films aren't now available to rent on my 1st generation AppleTV, just buying options are shown. No technical reason why they couldn't, other than Apple being Apple of course. Still, annoying all the same.

Apps. That's pretty much it. The inbuilt storage isn't available for use as data storage at all according to the developer documentation - even if your app simply wants to save it's settings or config, that has to be done in iCloud. Which also suggests the new AppleTV will be sod all use if you don't have an iCloud account. Also Apps only get 200MB of space each - if you want to have more data than that (say graphics for a game) you have to set things up so you can request it off the internet as you use it. Which suggests to me there's no point buying the 64GB model unless you plan on buying a LOT of apps.

They may also use it for background caching of streaming media, but you can't store photos or movies say on the box at all.


I have no inside knowledge obviously but that may actually not be Apple's choice. The rights holders (i.e. TV and film studios) hold the rights and 'right to rent' is different to 'right to sell' - the studios have have specified a film is only available to rent for say a year after release and after that it's only available as a one off purchase.

There are also technical reasons why Apple might want to do things that way as well. I can't say which is actually the reason though.

Could be, though it's with the newer releases that I've noticed the missing rent option. For example, if I go to the "The Maze Runner" which was released to rent earlier this year - not that I particularly want to rent that one, but as an example - then the options are just to Buy, renting is missing for this title on the 1st Gen AppleTV, I'm pretty sure it's availble to rent on the newer AppleTVs though. Same with some of the other titles in the "New to rent" category. Yet, some new releases are availble to rent as well as buy. I could understand it if it was a global thing that affected all new releases, then you'd suspect either Apple or the studios have put a blanket ban on renting new titles. I suspect they're just gradually dropping support for certain titles in the hope that no one notices.


If it's Apple, the reasons are pretty clear, built-in obsoleteness - especially since they've just updated their hardware!

Oh well, I suppose the 1st gen AppleTV has had a good bite of the cherry really - I will keep mine as I have all my ripped DVDs stored on there. Will see what the prices are like on the newer models, although I'm thinking a ROKR, FireTV Stick or NowTV box might be a better investment.

Only available to buy via iTunes on the Mac...


Hah! Nothing about media rights licensing is simple and nothing about it applies globally. Licences are granted in particular territories for particular things and there's no rhyme or reason to it. It's simply down to what the content provider (e.g. Apple or Netflix) can negotiate with the rights holder in that territory, and that may be different to another territory even if the rights holder is the same company. I know someone who used to do rights management for music in video games, my lord some of the stuff he told me...


It's possible, I'd be more certain if there was a blanket ban on renting anything on the V1 AppleTV. Streaming something and downloading something do have different network requirements though - the former has more 'quality of service' requirements than the latter and they can use different networking methodologies - so it's is possible there's a legit technical reason for it. We have no way of knowing though.


I bought a NowTV box (well for 20 quid why wouldn't you), I'm not right impressed by it tbh. Watching Sky stuff seems to work OK, but the apps feel very clunky and slow in general.

The Apple TV v1 had analogue outputs on it with no DRM.
Networks don't want people renting cheaply then copying them off