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timark_uk
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm Posts: 12143 Location: Belfast
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Neither of the two CGI modelled characters worked for me. I totally understand why one was in there - even if it failed on a realism level, the other one not so much. Both of them represented moments of nostalgia, but I really can't see this being utilised in any meaningful way for a full character arc in future instalments. Mark
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:45 pm |
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John_Vella
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:55 am Posts: 7935 Location: Manchester.
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The Star Wars franchise does have a bit of history when it comes to characters appearing via hologram, so maybe that's a solution.
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:50 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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People hate this. Seriously, the vitriol being blurted out by morons on this very subject is mindnumbing.
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:17 pm |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
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The hologram effect can hide a multitude of sins. I am reminded that in his review of this film, Mr Biffo correctly pointed out that a TV show (which will have a much lower budget per episode than a Star Wars film) managed to pull off a merging of old and new, get it seamless and believable. He was, of course, referring to Star Trek: DS9 episode Trials and Tribble-ations. That or they’ll have to properly kill off Leia and introduce/revive a character that can step in. Bet they wish they hadn‘t killed off Han Solo now.
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:22 pm |
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timark_uk
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm Posts: 12143 Location: Belfast
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Recasting would be a lot less financially extravant compared to either a CG character or hologramming someone. I would be very surprised if they killed her character off.
Mark
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:25 pm |
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davrosG5
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 am Posts: 6954 Location: Peebo
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But the wailing and teeth gnashing if they recast would be quite spectacular. Admittedly they'll be pilloried either way by a certain proportion of the fan base whatever they do.
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:43 pm |
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timark_uk
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm Posts: 12143 Location: Belfast
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Yep. Certainly not an easy decision to make, whatever they go with. Mark
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:08 pm |
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oceanicitl
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:04 am Posts: 11039 Location: London
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Apparently Hollywood stars are now rushing to protect their image so it can't be used as CGI after their deaths
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:20 am |
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cloaked_wolf
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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Didn't Robin williams already do this?
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:22 am |
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oceanicitl
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He can't. He's dead. Joking aside he did do it
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:36 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
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Newsnight last night had a segment on this - discussing the issues behind using an actor’s likeness after they have died. Worth a watch in iPlayer.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:57 am |
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oceanicitl
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:04 am Posts: 11039 Location: London
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Can't you just tell us the highlights?
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:27 am |
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jonlumb
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:44 pm Posts: 4141 Location: Exeter
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Finally got to see this last night with Oli. Both of us really quite enjoyed it. I remain on the fence regarding the CGI characters, the one you see more of seemed a more valid use, the second, rather fleeting appearance felt a lot more gratuitous imho.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:45 am |
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timark_uk
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm Posts: 12143 Location: Belfast
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The more fleeting one was personal approved by the person, the less fleeting one was approved by the person's estate. It's not a particularly new phenomenon as it was apparently used in one of the Fast and Furious films with Paul Walkers character and it was also done in Gladiator and one of The Crow films. It's also worth a mention that in Ep. IX Carrie Fisher was set to play an even larger role than what she does in Ep. VIII, I'm not sure if there's a virtual model of the person in her older years that could be utilised. Mark
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:55 am |
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oceanicitl
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:04 am Posts: 11039 Location: London
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Personally*
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