ONE game

ONLY ONE GAME

Wow... your service must be amazing if there is only one game worth playing

I said it was the best game, not the only one worth playing. Keep up chap.

Xbox Live is by far better than PSN IMO. I also prefer the Xbox control pad and apart from LBP and (soon) GT5 there's nothing I want to play on PS3 I cant play on Xbox. I dont much care about all this failure rate business either. Mine works fine and if it does break within 3 years then it'll get fixed for free. Not exactly a big issue.

Oddly, I had far more fun playing Super Rub-A-Dub with the motion sensors! Really addictive and it looks good. "Calling all Cars" isn't bad either. Gripshift is rather like a modern version of Stunt Car Racer on the ZX Spectrum and is also very good, as is PAIN...
Lemmings looks great but is a little short.

Here's the full list of everything on there...
Clicky

Of course, the movie service (buy and rental) is coming in November, compatible with both the PSP and PS3, in SD and HD, which is nice.

Having had 18 months of Xbox live before my console died twice and I gave up, I don't think XBL is that much better, certainly not £30 better. I'll take my chances with the free option and the reliable console thanks!

I was happy to take 3 years of the service at £30 when I found a missprice online

The exclusive content and dlc edges it for me as well as the truematch matchmaking service

Funny, regardless of what game I was playing I'd end up playing against irritating 12-year old Americans, who would take ages to set their state to "ready" and would quit if they were losing. Gave up on that too.

A lot of the 360 games change that now, so if someone quits it marks it as a win for the other player and a quit for the other player

I generally turn off the mic volume if I play people I don't know

It drives me mad playing with the Yanks so I tend to stick to playing with friends o be honest. I'm really into co-op gaming at the minute (Res Evil 5) rather than full on multiplayer map types. Until MW2 comes out I suppose. And Forza 3. And Bad Company 2. And.......

Paying £30 for the live service has always been a gripe of mine on Xbox but its a cost I can swallow for what I consider to be a very good service/feature. PSN might be free but you still have to pay £x more for the more expensive console. Factor in the cost of XBL subs and its there or thereabouts.

Compared to the elite the PS3 is actually a very well priced console, considering the cost of the 360's wifi adaptor, play & charge kit and £30 ever year just to play online. Plus the potential lost income while you wait in for UPS every 6 months after a RROD. (it was 6 months or so for me anyway).

There just isn't a PS3 as badly specced as the 360 Arcade, although you could buy a proper one, sell the hard drive and cripple with wifi with a screwdriver if you really wanted to.

But with the PS3 can you just put a game in and play without mandatory install on a lot of games?

The Arcade is a pure spec machine with built in memory for saving games, nothing else

There are quite a few actually. Some have no install at all (Uncharted for one) , quite a lot have optional installs (SF4 for one). I'd say the ones that have mandatory installs are actually in the minority, as far as my experience goes. But in any case it's really a pointless question; every PS3 has a HDD so programmers use it if they think it will improve their game's performance. Quite how this is supposed to be a drawback is escaping me.
Apart from anything else, check out how big a 2.5" SATA drive you can get for the same price as a 120Gb 360 drive, it's mental. 360 owners are being charged roughly 3 times what PS3 owners are per GB. Skipping the HDD in the base package then charging a fortune for a proprietary part seems to me very much like gouging the customer, not providing a service. The fact every PS3 has a HDD and that the part is standard and user upgradable seem to me one of the few really good ideas in the whole hardware design.


The Arcade machine was a model designed to fit into a price bracket i.e. about roughly the same as the Wii. It's much more about 'pure' profit than 'pure' entertainment. Without a HDD there are a lot of things that the 360 is quite good for that you can't do either e.g. movie rentals, media playback and of course there are games on the 360 that have mandatory HDD installs and/or require more save space than the memory cards will allow. Having a fractured product base and massively inflating the price of peripherals to mitigate it is not doing the customer any favours.

Jon

Actually the Pro is at the Wii price point

The Arcade has been around £135 price point
The Pro (60gb HDD) is at the Wii price point that you implied

Movie Rentals can be streamed, not just downloaded.
Media Playback can be done via USB flash drive, external hard drive or even a portable device such as iPod or Zune. Or can be streamed by a home server via network using the Media Centre settings (including playback of TV recorded on another machine.
No games have a mandatory HDD install, no games require more than 256mb save space as the new Jasper consoles includes as standard, leaving space for the NXE also

Then there is the release of Carbon for the 360 when BT pull their thumb out for integration with a BT Vision STB for rentals and streaming content without a PC.

Rumor: PS3 Slim Getting Backwards Compatible through Download? (Emulator)

http://www.justpushstart.com/2009/08/19 ... -download/

If this is true, I hope it isn't some load of nonsense that only works with PSN PS2 games...

If Sony finally come to their senses on this, I'm gonna have to consider a new TV, not to mention Batman: Arkham Asylum