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3G iPad price is 'ridiculous', claims expert
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pcernie
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 |  |  |  | Quote: Apple's pricing for the iPad is "ridiculous", a hardware expert said on Wednesday, as he argued that the $130 price difference for models with 3G means buyers of those tablets subsidise the lowest-priced $499 model.
"The iPad is surprisingly cheaper than I expected," started Aaron Vronko, the chief executive of Michigan-based Rapid Repair who last week filled a slate of tablet predictions . "But the $130 difference [between models] is a little ridiculous. 3G chips run in the mid-single digits. For $7 you can get a really good one."
Apple has priced the iPad in an unusually complex matrix of two basic models - one with Wi-Fi 802.11n connectivity only, the other with both WiFi and 3G - available in three memory storage configurations of 16GB, 32GB and 64GB. The Wi-Fi+3G model of each is $130 more than the cost of the Wi-Fi-only iPad with the same amount of storage. In other words, while Apple will sell the Wi-Fi-only tablet in 16GB, 32GB and 64GB models for $499, $599 and $699, respectively, the iPad with Wi-Fi and 3G will cost $629, $729 and $829. UK pricing has yet to be announced. "Six models? And with only one display size?" Vronko asked, clearly taken aback.
No wonder, since Apple typically trims the number of models in each line to a minimum. The iPhone 3GS, for example, comes in just two configurations - 16GB and 32GB - while the iMac is available in just two models for each of two screen sizes.
"The fact that they came out with this segmented pricing tells me one thing: that they had to work harder than they thought they would have to make a pricing constraint," Vronko said.
The $130 price difference and the multiple models led Vronko to conclude that Apple had underpriced the less-expensive Wi-Fi-only iPad to make the magic sub-$500 price point. He speculated that buyers of the more expensive 3G-equipped iPads will, in effect, subsidize the relative bargain for Wi-Fi-only customers.
"My guess is that the 3G price is where Apple wanted the price of the iPad to be, but they felt a lot of pressure to hit a pricing mark," Vronko added.
Apple CEO Steve Jobs alluded to just that during the iPad roll-out earlier today. "When we set out to develop the iPad, we not only had specific technical goals and user interface goals, but an aggressive price goal, because we want to put this in the hands of a lot of people," Jobs said.
"Five hundred dollars is going to turn a lot of heads," Vronko said. "That's where a lot of people will pay attention. At $600, though, they may [pause and] say, 'Do I really need this?'"
Vronko also pointed to the small amount of flash RAM in the lowest-priced iPad - just 16GB, the same as in the lowest-priced iPhone 3GS - as another example of Apple's effort to slip under the $500 bar. "That's lower than what I expected," he said. "I'd call 32GB the minimum for most people, especially when you think about how much video 16GB will hold."
However, Van Baker, an analyst with Gartner Research, questioned whether the 3G models would sell in sufficient quantity to be a factor. "I think the iPad will sell extremely well, but most will be the Wi-Fi model," Baker said. "Some of the 3G models will sell, some people will pay the $130 just to have 3G if they want it later, but most usage models of the tablet are with Wi-Fi...at home, in the coffee shop, in the classroom."
More importantly, Baker saw the iPad's $500 price as more than just a head-turner, but as Apple's stake in the netbook market, something other analysts have long expected.
"Is the iPad a competitor to a netbook? Yeah, I think it is," said Baker. "Netbook makers should be looking over their shoulder after today. They don't have a lot of room to move, not with the Microsoft 'tariff,'" he said, referring to the added cost to OEMs for a Windows license. |  |  |  |  |
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.c ... d=3211325&There's an iPad vid in the link... I have to say, I've found the amount of options available to be slightly confusing...
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Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:57 pm |
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big_D
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Yeah, the $130 difference is very surprising - although $7 is a little on the low side, considering the extra aerials, differently designed motherboard etc. But I would still expect it to come in at under $50 difference.
As to the 16GB limit... Does it really need more? I have a 32GB iPhone and, to be honest, although I have all my music on it, I only use it for podcasts, so a 2GB memory limit would probably be fine for me, 4GB for a little headroom for apps and data.
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Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:22 pm |
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Fogmeister
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It's not too bad.
You choose the size, 16, 32 or 64GB. Then you decide if you want 3G.
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Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:55 pm |
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jonbwfc
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On the one side, we have a guy who runs a PC repair shop in Michigan and spouts off a lot on the inertnet.
On the other side, we have one of the most successful (and frankly mad) executives in the history of commerce who took a company that was a basket case and turned it around, then took it into one of the most competitive markets there is and ate the major player's lunches.
I know whose opinion I'd actually put money on, should I wish to gamble any.
Personally I think the wifi only iPads will be the big sellers. But more because most people won't actually need 3G in these devices, rather than the cost differential being insurmountable.
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Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:01 pm |
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big_D
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But as the article said, the price of the 3G option is very high, considering how expensive the chip is to produce. Look at how much you pay for a 3G dongle...  The $7 in the article isn't realistic, as it is more than welding a new chip to the motherboard, but the $130 is also out of proportion.
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Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:17 pm |
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jonbwfc
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Given the recurring cost of the data bundle they're selling seemed quite cheap - or at least that was the impression I got from the reaction in the room, I have no idea how much mobile broadband costs in the states - could they be using the upfront cost of the 3G hardware to subsidise the monthly cost of the data transfer? if that is the case you'd have to assume that, as data transfer bundles tend to be cheaper in the EU, the cost differential might drop. Or they might just keep the extra as profit... Jon
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Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:28 pm |
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Angelic
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Everything is good value if you want it bad enough ^_^
Some people may need the 3g capabilities.
A vast amount of people won't.
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Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:01 am |
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veato
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I would imagine the 3G model will be sold bundled on data contracts making the device cheaper than the suggested retail price. A bit like the difference between buying an iPhone on PAYG (expensive) and one on contract (subsidised).
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Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:00 am |
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big_D
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I dunno, a tenner a month gets me 250MB on my current phone, with 19.99 giving me a flat rate (up to 5GB at UMTS speeds, after that it is capped at GPRS speed), so the prices announced didn't sound anything special...
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Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:07 pm |
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big_D
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In the US, that was the big difference, it won't be bundled. You can buy a data contract with AT&T, but you can also plug in any normal SIM card (CDMA cards excluded).
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Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:10 pm |
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adidan
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Good marketing, it makes the other version look comparatively cheap.
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Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:58 pm |
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jonbwfc
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The price they've announced is for The USA, where, if Jobs's claim is to be believed, a decent 3G data contract is $60. So it is a fairly special price in their market. It may very well be there isn't the same scope for making hyperbolic comments in the more progressive european market but I'd at least assume the data plan will be cheap and straightforward. It's not in Apple's interests to allow the mobile service companies to faff around with it too much. Jon
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