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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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Nobody is entitled to a qualification. For any course with a qualification at the end, the rules and requirements are laid out at the beginning, be they coursework or exams or a mix of both and what aspects of study will be covered. If you can't hack it, it's nobody's fault but yours. There's no reason I can see that courses should be flexible. The job of qualified courses is to provide all those participating with a trusted measure of their competence on a standardised, objective level. Everyone does the same thing, in the same time period and does the same tests under the same conditions. Anything else is just a waste of everyone's time. You might as well just hand the certificates out at the beginning and all go off for tea & cakes. Jon
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Nick
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm Posts: 3527 Location: Portsmouth
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I don't see why the current system is such a problem?
It's the way Universities work, so surely it's good preparation?
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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No course is going to survive without students. Since academic institutions require the funding that follows each student, I think they should suit the needs of those students.
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Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:27 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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+1. All university courses that I'm aware of are made up of modules, all of which are independently graded.
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Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:28 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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Academic institutions are not there simply to give students qualifications. If they do so, they are failing in their greater responsibility to society at large. Would you want to be operated on by a surgeon who had been to a medical school that 'catered to the needs of it's students', or one that made damn sure those that got the qualification earned it? Jon
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Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:32 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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It depends. For example I hold nothing but disdain for medical schools that try to regulate the behaviour of medical students off-campus as well as on the job.
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Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:34 pm |
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Amnesia10
Legend
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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The ability to remember really only applied to O levels. A Levels required some understanding of the subject. Also for professional exams you are allowed to take in books. Which is closer to an every day situation. Though whatever you do you need a simple way to compare people. For O and A levels exams are straight forward and can be hard to cheat. For universities they can still use modular courses for all the reasons mentioned.
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Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:51 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Let's take two of my A-levels as an example. Geology - Exams at the end of a two year course Geography. Lots of smaller exams, the first two of which were in teh Junuary of my first year doing A-levels. With geology I had almost two years to progress from GCSE standard to A-level standard. With geography I had six months. Sure the exams were shorter as less had been covered, but I still had to be at that standard to get the grades. (only I didn't get there the first time round).
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Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:10 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Considering what actual qualified medical staff get up to in hospitals, strict standards in medical schools aren't going to make me feel much better.
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Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:11 pm |
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lumbthelesser
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Fri May 21, 2010 11:38 pm Posts: 442 Location: Manchester
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The other thing about the modular system compared to the old system is that modules take more time out of school. 3-4 weeks study period for AS is not uncommon at all, not to mention all the lessons prior to that devoted to revision, on top of the disruption caused by January modules. People say the modular exams are easier, but there is significantly less time to cover everything than there was with the old system.
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