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MrStevenRogers
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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religion is organised gang membership do you wanna be in my gang etc
there is the one everything comes from the one, everything returns to the one everything else is man made …
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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If anyone thinks that this isn't an issue then they really are very naive about how the world works.
_________________ Fogmeister I ventured into Solitude but didn't really do much. jonbwfc I was behind her in a queue today - but I wouldn't describe it as 'bushy'.
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Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:33 pm |
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Zippy
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:20 pm Posts: 3838 Location: Here Abouts
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Or perhaps just not as inclined to let non-issues rule the world?
_________________The Official "Saucy Minx"  This above all: To Thine Own Self Be True "Red sky at night, Shepherds Delight"..Which is a bit like Shepherds Pie, but with whipped topping instead of mashed potato.
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Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:11 pm |
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okenobi
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Zippy's right. How many times do I have to say this?! The story was published to cause a stir and that's just what's happening. The world may work like that, but I'm not gonna subscribe to that world. This is a non-issue and every person that claims to have a problem with these references is just fueling the fire.
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Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:33 pm |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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This is entirely what I mean. Most wars, most arguments, most fears - they're generally founded on things that aren't, fundamentally, important.
_________________ Fogmeister I ventured into Solitude but didn't really do much. jonbwfc I was behind her in a queue today - but I wouldn't describe it as 'bushy'.
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:36 am |
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Zippy
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:20 pm Posts: 3838 Location: Here Abouts
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Ahh, I understand your original comment now. Sorry, I took it the other way at first 
_________________The Official "Saucy Minx"  This above all: To Thine Own Self Be True "Red sky at night, Shepherds Delight"..Which is a bit like Shepherds Pie, but with whipped topping instead of mashed potato.
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:46 am |
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okenobi
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Me too. Wisdom abounds.
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:50 am |
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Angelic
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:16 pm Posts: 704 Location: Leeds, UK
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So they've been making these things for how many years?
And it's only just been flagged up?
I wonder how many people got offended in that time ^_^
Also maybe they should change their CROSShairs to star-of-david-hairs or crescent-moon-and-star-hair?
This is a load of crap. If people hate Christianity then the last place they should move is America. It's a country that was pretty much founded BECAUSE of Christianity - most countries converted to Christianity from some other religion.
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:22 pm |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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I am aware that I can be far too ambiguous for my own good sometimes, it is unintentional. 
_________________ Fogmeister I ventured into Solitude but didn't really do much. jonbwfc I was behind her in a queue today - but I wouldn't describe it as 'bushy'.
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:46 pm |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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No, the point is they're fighting a war against people who have, in the past, accused them of mounting a 'crusade' against Islam. Using weapons referencing the Bible isn't going to help matters politically in areas which are touch and go, at best. I'm sure there's probably some manufacturers in the US that'll happily flog you a rifle inscribed with any Biblical passage you want, and that's really their business. It's when you take those to a war zone, and start allowing religion on your part start leeching into your activities that you get problems. Like using a beef jerky business card ( no, really) when you're trying to start a business in a veggie area of India.
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:36 pm |
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rustybucket
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:10 pm Posts: 5836
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America's real-life values (as opposed to its theoretical ones) have rarely, to me at least, seemed anything like Christian. Furthermore it does seem like downright theft for the US to lay claim to the "christian" justification when most Christians on the planet almost completely disagree with almost every aspect of US domestic and foreign policy. A man may boast furiously of being a Christian, an athlete or perhaps great in bed; it is easy to claim anything. However claims do not a glorious lover, an Adonis or a little Christ make; unfortunately for the claimant actions speak louder than words. I'm not really a "little Christ" - I'm just trying my best.
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:52 pm |
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rustybucket
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Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:53 pm |
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okenobi
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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What about them millions of Christians in the States? US policy is a matter of opinion, not faith. IMHO Christians (like any other group of people) represent a vast cross-section of opinions on a huge variety of subjects. Being a Christian shouldn't automatically mean a certain political opinion.
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Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:48 am |
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