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TheHobgob
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If shops were open 24/7 they wouldn't last very long. We stay open until 8 in the week on 90% of the time the sales intake is not worth the staff costs. Its just the way it is.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:04 pm |
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davrosG5
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 am Posts: 6954 Location: Peebo
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Sunday opening would not necissarily force people to work on a Sunday (see my first post in this thread). Furthermore, IIRC time off is covered by the Working Time Directive and is enshrined in European and therefore UK law. Pretty much everyone is entitled to 24 hours a week when they do not work or 48 hours a fortnight. I really don't see that possition changing much. Unions all over the EU would do their nut for one thing plus it would be ultimately self defeating for the businesses anyway to have staff that are so drained because they never have a break.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:08 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Working time directive says you must have a certain amount of time off, but when do you get time with the family if you have to work Sat and Sun? New staff will almost always have written into their contracts that they may have to work on weekends, so with staff turnover at some point all employees will have this requirement.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:18 pm |
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TheFrenchun
Officially Mrs saspro
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:55 pm Posts: 4955 Location: on the naughty step
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worked sundays : less time at home = less home cooked food, obesity. less family presence = youth on the street when they could be at home.
In France they started allowing some touristy areas to open sundays and now people are getting sacked because they don't want to.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:04 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Which is exactly what will happen here. Anyone who believes that employees won't be forced to work on Sundays is naïve. Saturday and Sunday are when Tesco et al rake in a small fortune, of course they'll want you to work it. Christ, they've already gotten rid of the special pay rates for Sundays and bank holidays, what is that if not a warning sign about where things are heading?
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:12 pm |
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AlunD
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am Posts: 7011 Location: Wiltshire
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Who has? 
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:35 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Tesco, Sainsbury's etc...
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:36 pm |
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AlunD
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Nope they haven't. or to be accurate i know Sainsbury's haven't.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:37 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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I worked at a supermarket before they could open on Sundays. I did get an occasional shift on Sunday though and got double pay for it. I doubt that happens now.
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:05 pm |
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AlunD
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Sunday is double pay still - its one of my daughters standard days with Sainsburys
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:17 pm |
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HeatherKay
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I used to think the "Keep Sunday Sacred" people were a bunch of raving nutters, but I now think they were onto something.
I have grown to miss the one day of the week when you couldn't actually buy anything unless you were getting the Sunday papers, petrol or were in the pub. I was quite happy knowing when the shops were open, and don't really feel my life is any better now for being able to buy a Twix at 2.30am.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:18 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Yes they have. All new employees no longer enjoy the extra pay. Your daughter must be on an older contract. I know fine well - I had to sign a new contract when I moved store and then lost all the benefits of my old contract - including time-and-a-half on Sundays and "anti-social hours" on a Saturday after 6pm.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:38 pm |
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okenobi
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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I think the problem with the raving nutters was their motives seemed religious and we all want freedom to choose when/how we consume. I would prefer to argue that we can still have that choice to an extent. But I can't really do that, because our whole society is based around the concept of weeks and weekends, that it's impossible to escape. The vast majority of people, it seems, work Monday through Friday and want to be able to buy things on Saturday and Sunday. Shame, coz I'm more of an individual than that, but there isn't a lot of room for individuals in this day and age.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:00 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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^^ A fine example of how the big stores erode benefits. You were only switching stores ffs.
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:01 pm |
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TheFrenchun
Officially Mrs saspro
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:55 pm Posts: 4955 Location: on the naughty step
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So you're an individual? do you have a family? Or because you want to be able to do what you want people who wanna spend time with their family would lose out? Imagine Mom working sunday-thursday, dad tuesday- saturday, kids at school all week... When do you spend any time as a group? Just because you want your comfort to be able to buy on a sunday if you so wish. My life is full enough that i don't need to go to shops on sundays, or at night
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