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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- ... 8411?f=rss

I can't say I know that much about it really, but best of luck to him :)

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Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:46 pm
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Some how I am not so sure that it is such a great deal for Americans. They want a public option and this does not include a public option. This could cost them dear in the mid term elections.

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Triumphant Barack Obama has won his bitter battle to push through historic healthcare reforms hailing the vote as "a victory for the American people".

The relieved president spoke out after politicians voted 219-212 to approve the legislation, some of the most important in America for decades.

"Today's vote answers the prayers of every American who has hoped deeply for something to be done about a healthcare system that works for insurance companies but not for ordinary people," Mr Obama said.

He called the vote "another stone firmly laid in the foundation of the American dream".

"If you have health insurance this reform just gave you more control by reining the worst excesses and abuses of the insurance industry with some of the toughest consumer protections this country has ever known," he said.

Democrats used their majority to muscle the measure through, losing 34 conservative party members who joined the united Republican opposition.

Sky News' Greg Milam said: "This is an historic night for the USA and certainly for Barack Obama who staked so much of his reputation on this piece of legislation.

"If it had not been passed there would have been serious questions about what Barack Obama could have achieved both domestically and internationally.

"That's why this could be a turning point for the president."

The overhaul will extend healthcare coverage to some 32 million Americans who don't have it already.

Republicans denounced the plan, and made frequent trips to a Capitol balcony to cheer on hundreds of protesters outside demanding they "kill the bill".

After a year of debate, Mr Obama cleared the way for his own victory with an 11th-hour deal to sign an order reaffirming a ban on government funding for abortions.

That won support for the health reform bill from a group of conservative Democratic holdouts.

The breakthrough ensured that Mr Obama's Democratic allies could get the 216 votes needed to ensure passage of the legislation.

The House voted on what Mr Obama has called "the toughest insurance reforms in history".

They come a century after president Theodore Roosevelt first called for a national approach to US health care.

Sky's White House commentator Jon-Christopher Bua said: "With a vote of 219 to 212 the Democrats passed Health Care Reform to shouts of 'Yes We Can!'.

"Despite its flaws this historic piece of health care legislation is the first step in reforming a broken system that has failed to cover over 30 million Americans.

"What is not clear is who wins with the passage of this legislation in the Mid-Term Election.

"The answer is probably president Obama.

"What is less clear is if the Democrats will maintain their majority. Otherwise the Republicans will make the most of this vote on November 2... to the Democrats' peril."


http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- ... 8924?f=rss

As I say, don't know much about it, though the talk of insurance in Yank productions always jarred with me...

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I am still unsure as to whether this bill is actually appreciably better than what they had before.

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I think it is, since part of what it does is rap the insurance companies very firmly on the knuckles, the majority of Americans would have health insurance if it weren't for the fact that the companies invalidate their insurance pretty much the minute they get sick, they also have unfair acceptance criteria and lists of exclusions a mile long.

Health insurance in the US is a way of life, it's not expensive and there are a number of "assessment" levels so people on low or no wages pay nothing. I lived there for 4 years, it took me nearly 2 to get accepted for insurance and I was working fulltime with no regular health complaints. The majority of people there I've spoken to think this is a brilliant solution to the problems they face.

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If it actually is an improvement then this could be very good. I now hope that the electorate will reward those that voted for it.

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This guy is insane!

I think ti's a very good thing for america. At the same time i don't really care. I never got the feeling that they are a real country as Americans don't care for one another. Maybe the country should just be split


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TheFrenchun wrote:

Yes he is

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Above all the health care bill is a thinly disguised vanity project for a president who is committed to transforming the United States from the world’s most successful large-scale free enterprise economy, to a highly interventionist society with a massive role for centralized government.

Hold on this is the US economy he is talking about where average wages have not risen in more than ten years and the only way people coped was that they were able to cash in on their homes value. Where the stock market spent a decade in the doldrums. Where tourism has slumped because of excessive security policies. Where banks control their regulator and they are insolvent. He clearly is deluded.

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