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Depends if you use those features or not I suppose. Personally I've always thought 3D graphs look a bit naff in documents.

Although it would look a bit odd if you are giving a presentation and the people in the meeting have a printout to go along with the presentation, that shows 3D representations and the one projected on the wall only has 2D version?

I don't think anyone is going to storm out of the meeting over it though. I'm often presented with a paper copy of a presentation which is all in black and white yet the presentation was given in colour and somehow I manage to scrape though. Even when people don't bother putting legends on their graphs (and most don't).

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What if you have made a complex object made up of hundreds of basic objects, you'd be a bit miffed it it suddenly ungrouped itself?

That could be an issue admittedly, if you were hoping to edit the object on the iPad. If you weren't, presuming the objects at least remain correct in relation to each other therefore the effect would be fairly minimal. If it actually displaces parts of the group in the import process then obviously it's a massive pain in the rear.

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Or you need to repaginate a document and find that your automatic table of contents is now static text and you have to update all the page numbers by hand?

I generally find automatically generated ToC's need tinkering with anyway so I tend to leave them to the end. So, for me at least, a document I was part way through editing wouldn't have a ToC to mess up.

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Or all those nice footnotes you had explaining things in the text have disappeared?

Yep, this is a problem. Losing content (as oppose to just munging it in some way) surely isn't something two products from the same company using the same file format should do between them.

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big_D wrote:
jonbwfc wrote:
Depends if you use those features or not I suppose. Personally I've always thought 3D graphs look a bit naff in documents.

Although it would look a bit odd if you are giving a presentation and the people in the meeting have a printout to go along with the presentation, that shows 3D representations and the one projected on the wall only has 2D version?

I don't think anyone is going to storm out of the meeting over it though. I'm often presented with a paper copy of a presentation which is all in black and white yet the presentation was given in colour and somehow I manage to scrape though. Even when people don't bother putting legends on their graphs (and most don't).

No, but it looks naff and amateurish if the printout looks "better" than the live demonstration...

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That could be an issue admittedly, if you were hoping to edit the object on the iPad. If you weren't, presuming the objects at least remain correct in relation to each other therefore the effect would be fairly minimal. If it actually displaces parts of the group in the import process then obviously it's a massive pain in the rear.

Yep, or just before the presentation, you notice that the "object" is overlapping a bit of text, having to move dozens or hundreds of objects a few pixels, instead of a single object would be a pain.

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I generally find automatically generated ToC's need tinkering with anyway so I tend to leave them to the end. So, for me at least, a document I was part way through editing wouldn't have a ToC to mess up.

I've been using ToCs in Word since the early 90s and can't say I've ever really experienced any problems with them...

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I will only use Keynote, PowerPoint and Presenter just doesn't feel as good to use. Keynote allows me (without a single creative atom in my body) to create presentations that actually don't look half bad.

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Fair enough. It does illustrate a little though that the impact of the limitations of iPad iWorks maybe quite... granular depending on exactly what features of the apps you generally use, which I assume stems from what sort of content you're creating.

TBH I've never really seen Pages as a tool for creating heavyweight documents - you wouldn't want to write a book or technical manual with it, although you could do a novella or magazine. Nor would (I suspect) you want to be doing that sort of thing on an iPad either.

It does seem odd though that two versions of the same application from the same company running on what is effectively the same OS do have differences. You'd think a lot of it was purely being done in Core Image or Core text, which you'd immediately assume was pretty much hardware independent.

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