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OK, just once more then I'm done, cos this is really interrupting the footie; it's the principle that's exactly the same.

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I'm not missing your point, you are calling a football match homogenised...


Read it again; I didn't. I'm not.

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What if Asda bought ALL the milk and eggs in the UK? Would they have a monopoly on it? Of course they would. How about if Tesco bought all the ketchup, Morrisons all the Bread. They would all be a monopoly.


Absolutely. But if they bought the rights to sell all the milk, bread etc... for a ten year period, then it isn't a monopoly. It can't be, because the contract ends, at which time other companies can bid for it. Sky bought the rights to Premiership football until the 2012/13 season, at which time they'll have to bid for it again (assuming they want it, of course) in competition with whatever other companies are interested in acquiring those rights.

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It's still a monopoly when one company can buy every single game at an artificially inflated cost to stop the others being able to afford it :roll:


<sigh>No it isn't, not if they're acquiring rights for a set period in an open market. The contracts are worth what someone is prepared to pay for them, and if one company is prepared to pay more for those rights than another, so be it. Which part of that don't you understand? (rhetorical question)

OK, now I'm done.

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Yes but you can have temporary monopolies as well.

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petermillard wrote:
Read it again; I didn't. I'm not.

The principle for a homogeneous item and a brand item is very different so saying the principle is the same isn't correct on a fundamental basis. The underlying economic principles are completely different.

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Absolutely. But if they bought the rights to sell all the milk, bread etc... for a ten year period, then it isn't a monopoly. It can't be, because the contract ends, at which time other companies can bid for it. Sky bought the rights to Premiership football until the 2012/13 season, at which time they'll have to bid for it again (assuming they want it, of course) in competition with whatever other companies are interested in acquiring those rights.

So a company is not a monopoly if it has monopolistic control for 10 or fewer years? Right........... :roll:


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<sigh>No it isn't, not if they're acquiring rights for a set period in an open market. The contracts are worth what someone is prepared to pay for them, and if one company is prepared to pay more for those rights than another, so be it. Which part of that don't you understand? (rhetorical question)

Apart from the fact it's not an open market, IIRC they bid for them, so one company who has more spending power can pay far above the market cost (again, this does not happen in an open market) to prevent competition from securing it. It's not an open market, by definition

Are you sure you don't mean a free market, because I don't think we are talking about dealing with banks.

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