or you could say it was the Labour Party that broke Britain by the refusal to restrict the actions of the unions and leaving the UK as the sick man of Europe and the winter of discontent. Typified by the song "you cant get rid of me I'm an union man".
A political party can not "break" society without that society agreeing to it being broken and thus being implicit in that breaking.


Lets face it there all scumbags that deserve to be hung like beef carcasses, but its too late and i have work in the morning

Well the Winter of Discontent was over thirty years ago and union membership is still strongest in public sector so it will be the public sector unions that will be fighting for any workers rights now.

A political party can create the conditions for a broken society. The me first attitude that came out of Thatcherism was good for many, fantastic for a very few and not that great for the majority. No society wants to break up, they are lead in the wrong direction by the politicians


Yes they are all pretty much scum.

I don't think many will argue with that.

I just don't like the way the system is set up so that people can be scaremongered into not voting for what they believe in because the system is not set up to reflect the value of each vote. Hopefuly a coalition would rectify that situation.

I also have to say that it's a nonsensical idea that a coalition would cause stagnation, where's the recent evidence?

Cross party committees in the House of Lords often work well, most notably the recent one concerning Barnett's formula which they all agree is out of date (as too does Barnett BTW), and if you ask anybody about which country would come to mind if you think of 'effciency' I'd imagine 9/10 would say Germany.

Germany's economy came out of recession quicker than the UK, I know alot of that was down to their motor manufacturing, but that's not the point. The point is that scaremongering that a coalition would be bad for the economy is juts that, scaremongering.

I don't agree with treating politics like religion, political actions shouldn't be based on fear.

Oh please.

But that's the system we live in.

I just wish everybody would stop this [LIFTED] colour-based [LIFTED]! Just because you don't like what happened during the last party's period of governance does not mean it was ENTIRELY their fault. Nor does it mean them getting in again would induce similar results. The people of this country need to start taking some responsibility. We allow this [LIFTED] to go on, by being apathetic - me included. They are way more of us than there are of them and we could stand up to them if enough of us gave a [LIFTED]. But we don't. And it doesn't matter what I post, most people will vote for the opposite party of the one they think is evil. Get a clue FFS....

That's true. If you'd heard my dad rant about Labour's previous efforts when they got into power in 97, you think we'd have none stop strikes, power cuts and empty shelves in the shops. That may have happened in the 70's but it hasn't been the same this time. We've just had millions of pointless laws invading peoples privacy this time

I hear what you're saying. I have no particular party affiliation.

In the interim I would just like the system to change, a system based on proportional representation would actually reflect peoples wants and the politicians would hopefully respond.

And before people run off scared from PR there are many forms, including one that would not always produce coalitions. PR and ranked votes, top 2 parties go through to the 2nd count and the winner forms the Government. Simples. No coalition.

I don't have party ties either. The last few elections (local, general and European) I voted for three different parties. However, having looked at policies and the consequences of indecisive action, I think that we should all
VOTE CONSERVATIVE
tomorrow. Let's face it, whoever wins will have to raise taxes and make massive spending cuts. Best we do it sooner rather than later and save the public finances/economy. Even worse would be a hung parliament where they spend all their time fighting and back stabbing rather than running the country. The Tories are the most likely winners and getting a winner into government is better than having no winner at all.

I think that we should all
VOTE HOWEVER YOU DESIRE


Edited due to humour failure.
I'm going Liberal, as usual.

CONSERVATIVE
LABOUR
LIBERAL DEMOCRATS

does that mess with anyone else's head the way it does mine?

It took me a second or two to spot. I actually think it looks better that way.

Misquotes are bad But then that's something politicians do all the time so I guess it's apt for this thread.

I think I might do the usual and stay up and watch the results as they come in.
Is anyone else planning on doing that?

I have never and will never vote Conservative.

Labour, possibly if they ever remember the ordinary people and the workers again, but Lib Dem definitely. If there was another alternative that fitted my personal beliefs, I'd vote for them. If an independent was standing in my constituency, I'd vote for them. Sadly, all I'm left with is Lib Dem, so I have defaulted to my liberal leftie stance I've had since 1983.

Lev and I are discussing this elsewhere. Debate is healthy.

Lib dems have good ideas, but I'm scared most of them are not very applicable, and lack look term thoughts

For councillors elections i'd never vote a party. vote the man who's best for your city.