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Does (potential) product placement on TV bother you?
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Does (potential) product placement on TV bother you? 
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Product placement doesn't bother me as much as the whole "FastForward - in association with..." at the start and end of every flippin' ad. break; Jake Humphreys using his own iPad at a Grand Prix to hold his scripts and notes doesn't bother me any more than reporters wearing their own 'North Face' apparel whilst doing a piece to camera <shrug>

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Jake Humphreys using his own iPad at a Grand Prix to hold his scripts and notes doesn't bother me any more than reporters wearing their own 'North Face' apparel whilst doing a piece to camera <shrug>


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The only people who it'll affect are those dumb enough to be taken in by product placement.

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Having had a play with the iPad F1 timing app over the weekend, I think he's probably pretty much justified to have it. Live timings, positions of cars on the track etc.. It's like having the race data display they get in the commentary booth with you all the time. Bloody impressive piece of work, frankly.

James Allen seems to like it too.

The only piece of product placement that has irked me recently was in the modern version of Casino Royale, where Bond was initially driving round in the (at the time) brand new Ford Mondeo. Like Bond would be seen dead in a car like that...

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The only piece of product placement that has irked me recently was in the modern version of Casino Royale, where Bond was initially driving round in the (at the time) brand new Ford Mondeo. Like Bond would be seen dead in a car like that...

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Agreed. As long as it doesn't lead to compromise then it doesn't bother me. I couldn't care less if Bond wears an Omega, Rolex, Breitling etc but it would look downright odd for him to be wearing a Casio.

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jonbwfc wrote:
The only piece of product placement that has irked me recently was in the modern version of Casino Royale, where Bond was initially driving round in the (at the time) brand new Ford Mondeo. Like Bond would be seen dead in a car like that...

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Agreed. As long as it doesn't lead to compromise then it doesn't bother me. I couldn't care less if Bond wears an Omega, Rolex, Breitling etc but it would look downright odd for him to be wearing a Casio.


Tarantino is the only director who could have gotten away with the watch scene to my mind. Maybe :oops:

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I think there's a distinction between product-placement and product-being-there-because-it-should-be-there. Personally, for "real-life" broadcasts on the beeb I have no problem at all with brands being on show, but don't think they should be taking payment or "stuff" from companies and should have to pay for what they use. What I'm less sure in my own mind of is whether the beeb should be allowed to borrow "props" from companies for shows that are acted out.

Though why shouldn't Eastenders use product placement to help fund itself. Though if all the characters started driving the same care because there was a product placement requirement then it would look ridiculous. It would have to be in keeping with the show.

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I get more annoyed when they use "made-up" brands on soaps etc.

In the case of the F1 programme, who cares? I mean, it is an iPad, so what, it helps him do his job better. If it was a Slate or a netbook etc. it wouldn't bother me either.

On the other hand, what really annoys me is when they take a recognisable brand and put a bit of tape over the logo, that makes it stand out even more!


I have seen programmes where the logo is digitally masked out on some shots but not on others. You know what they are obscuring, so it seems really idiotic to hide the logo in the first place.

I have also seen car badges obscured, usually because there is an official car provider and other brands would be deemed unacceptable. This is an American phenomena, and it doesn't irk because who ever cuts out the masking material usually sticks to the shape of the badge being masked. We all know it's a Ford because the badge is that shape...

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HThe only piece of product placement that has irked me recently was in the modern version of Casino Royale, where Bond was initially driving round in the (at the time) brand new Ford Mondeo. Like Bond would be seen dead in a car like that...


Been a while since I watched it, but I always assumed that was a hire car, as he's just stepped off a plane?? I know it's just fiction and all, but having a Hertz or Avis stocked with Aston Martins might be stretching it a bit ;)

Anyway, didn't Ford provide all the vehicles for that movie - even the New Holland tractor he jumps into in the middle of the opening chase is a Ford-owned brand - hence the Land Rovers, Range Rovers, Jags etc... Even AstonMarton was owned (at the time) by Ford, I think.

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Anyway, didn't Ford provide all the vehicles for that movie - even the New Holland tractor he jumps into in the middle of the opening chase is a Ford-owned brand - hence the Land Rovers, Range Rovers, Jags etc... Even AstonMarton was owned (at the time) by Ford, I think.

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jonbwfc wrote:
HThe only piece of product placement that has irked me recently was in the modern version of Casino Royale, where Bond was initially driving round in the (at the time) brand new Ford Mondeo. Like Bond would be seen dead in a car like that...


Been a while since I watched it, but I always assumed that was a hire car, as he's just stepped off a plane?? I know it's just fiction and all, but having a Hertz or Avis stocked with Aston Martins might be stretching it a bit ;)

Anyway, didn't Ford provide all the vehicles for that movie - even the New Holland tractor he jumps into in the middle of the opening chase is a Ford-owned brand - hence the Land Rovers, Range Rovers, Jags etc... Even AstonMarton was owned (at the time) by Ford, I think.

Cheers, Pete


All the cars they featured, Mazdas, Volvos, etc. - all owned by Ford at the time. This was the film that had a Ferrari and a Lamboghini land nose first in a paddy field at the end.

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Anyway, didn't Ford provide all the vehicles for that movie - even the New Holland tractor he jumps into in the middle of the opening chase is a Ford-owned brand - hence the Land Rovers, Range Rovers, Jags etc... Even AstonMarton was owned (at the time) by Ford, I think.

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I was working at Gaydon a few summers back. That was fun too...

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AlunD wrote:
petermillard wrote:
Anyway, didn't Ford provide all the vehicles for that movie - even the New Holland tractor he jumps into in the middle of the opening chase is a Ford-owned brand - hence the Land Rovers, Range Rovers, Jags etc... Even AstonMarton was owned (at the time) by Ford, I think.

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I was working at Gaydon a few summers back. That was fun too...


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As I've said before in similar threads in the past, the 15 minute ad-breaks on the non-BBC channels bother me more. I rather they used product placement in programmes instead. At the moment they just blur logo's out (albeit occasionally - MTV) or them up with their hands - even when it is so obvious what the product is.

I do find the sheer amount of coverage Apple products get a bit weird, but they seem to make news whatever they do - if the BBC didn't cover an Apple product and Sky or some other outlet did, they will have lost potential exposure I guess. Mind you, even security updates for OSX make news, which is hilarious.

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One thing I noticed was that in the first series of The Wire they use Nikon cameras for all their stakeouts, following seasons, Canon. It is good when it's in the right place, but things like James Bond take the piss.


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