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koli wrote:
I agree with leeds_manc. Rio has lost his form so having Carragher there might actually be an improvement.
And Gerrard seems like a better captain anyway...

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adidan wrote:
koli wrote:
I agree with leeds_manc. Rio has lost his form so having Carragher there might actually be an improvement.
And Gerrard seems like a better captain anyway...

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I honestly don't think Carra has been pulling up any trees but he's been solid enough. I certainly think he'll give it 100% if he plays. Gerrard did seem to thrive when given the Liverpool captaincy but that also coincided with him being used differently by Benitez and it's a bit hard to split one change from the other, we'll have to see if it works as well for England. As it is, I think it's probably evens altogether and our chances (such as they are, which aren't all that much) haven't been changed overall.

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To put our preparations into perspective, this evening Mexico beat Italy 2-1....


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To put our preparations into perspective, this evening Mexico beat Italy 2-1....

Check my post a few back mate. ;)

Spain just scraped a 1-0 against South Korea as well.

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Woo! A criminal as captain. 8-)

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Woo! A criminal as captain. 8-)

You know you've just libelled someone who can afford very good lawyers, yes?


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Woo! A criminal as captain. 8-)

You know you've just libelled someone who can afford very good lawyers, yes?


Not really, he'd have to prove that Nick's comment had caused a reasonable person to think less of him, or that it caused them a loss.

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With WC behind us I think we should do some evaluation of who said what and how it turned out:

adidan wrote:
Ok, recent friendly results:
France drew 1-1 with Tunisia and won 2-1 against Costa Rica,
Spain won 3-2 against Saudi Arabia
Italy drew 0-0 with Cameroon back in March...
Friendly results are important my arse

adidan wrote:
I reiterate, don't pay too much attention to friendlies:
World Cup holders Italy lost 2-1 to Mexico and Spain scraped a 1-0 win over South Korea...

adidan wrote:
I agree about Holland but, yes, they won 4-1 against Ghana but only managed 2-1 against Mexico a few weeks ago. Friendlies, really don't read too much into them.

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Doing (England qualifying) so unbeaten with (I think) the joint highest 'goal scored' tally in European qualifying shouldn't be sniffed at.They (England) didn't just qualify from that group, they absolutely walked it. They're still behind Spain, Brazil and Argentina by every reasonable measure (or at least Argentina if they weren't managed by a basket case) but I rather think the management teams of the likes of Germany and Italy for example would have looked at England's results and made a mental note to keep an eye out. They aren't one of the favourites (if you're sane anyway) but they may have gone from the middle of the chasing pack to the front of it.


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As to England's chances, they need a miracle. I haven't seen them playing well for years. If England played in EPL they would be mid-table team, just like Liverpool last season...

koli wrote:
Yes, I think friendlies are important. Players were playing for their places and yet England has only scrapped those wins. Not good enough if you ask me. They should have been building their confidence before WC so when it comes to it there will be no doubt in their mind that they are good enough. I think those performances have done more damage that good to their confidence.

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I don't consider France and Italy to be favourites to win it tbh. Especially France have been poor for years, they only scraped through to the WC. And Spain, well, I give you that one. But one result doesn't prove anything.

koli wrote:
Spain has won Euro's and didn't drop the level since then. I haven't seen Holland play but I have seen highlights and they are major favourites for me.


It seem to me that friendlies and qualifying for the WC are usually a very indicator. In quotes I have above they correctly predicted:
Failures: France, Italy and England
Successes: Spain and Holland

Admittedly Germans did much better than I would have thought they would but I haven't seen them before the WC so I don't feel too bad about that.

So Adidan and Jonbwc Lose, Koli WIN

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