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pcernie
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Amnesia10
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I have seen some cameras in places that are simply there to raise money. It makes sense but lets see how quickly this is abandoned when they need to raise more money.
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Nick
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It's a pretty well known fact that speed cameras don't make any money, and actually cost the taxpayer.
Perhaps there are individual profitable cameras, but as a whole they cost money to run.
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jonbwfc
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It's quite hard to find an objective source of information but clicky suggests that some years they make a profit, some years they cost money. If you think about it, the public pays either way. The problem in recent years apparently is a massive increase in vandalism - the number of cameras being wrecked/burned has rocketed and replacing them is very expensive. The issue to me seems obvious - no item of law is sustainable against the will of the majority of people who would be subject to it. If the majority don't want speed cameras - and the rise in vandalism suggests that opposition is growing - then society will find ways to rid itself of them, that's just the way organic systems like that work. Be it by overt action (i.e. vandalism) or by voting for people who say they will get rid of them. The major point I've always considered is that the number of accidents does not vary in proportion to the number of speed cameras i.e. more speed cameras does not mean less accidents.
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forquare1
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How many deaths have occurred on the M4 in the space of 45 miles in the last five years?
The stretch of road between Aber and Carmarthen (~45 miles) has, apparently, had seven deaths in the last five years and yet there are no speed cameras! The road is bendy with plenty of blind corners and hidden dips as well as being mainly national limit. People who know the road go (at least) national limit down them. You only want someone to think they know the road and you've got yourself a possible fatality...
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finlay666
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I do object to them on motorways purely because of the volume of traffic in areas without heavy congestion/roadworks. I agree with the average speed cameras on road works and the adjustable speed ones in areas of heavy congestion such as around Birmingham to keep traffic flowing smoothly and safely though _________________TwitterCharlie Brooker: Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults; computers for scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for people who earnestly believe in feng shui.
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Amnesia10
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But the problem is that they will not stick to those areas. The motorways are considerably safer than the average road even with the much higher average speeds. I would have thought that eliminating the speed cameras on motorways will have little impact on safety. The average speed ones through road works are there to really protect the construction workers, and should stay. Though why not have adjustable speeds through areas with road works.
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rustybucket
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Personally I'd rather see tailgating cameras.
If you're going to try to get people for something, it might as well be the thing that irritates me the most.
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forquare1
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Amnesia10
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Why not just more cop cars on the roads to catch them and mobile phone users? Or is that too simple? _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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belchingmatt
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Add a 50p per use of the horn charge. You won't mind paying it for times when you have to use it, and just think of that revenue from idiots who don't understand that it is for emergencies only. 
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Nick
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I use my horn for road-rage on a semi regular basis. I wouldn't be happy if I had to pay for the privilege of getting pissed off!  _________________
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