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pcernie
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 |  |  |  | Quote: One of the two killers of Merseyside toddler James Bulger has been charged with possession and distribution of indecent images of children.
Jon Venables, who killed James in 1993, was released from jail in 2001 and given a new identity and anonymity for life under a special court order.
But Venables, now 27, was recalled to prison in February after allegedly breaching the terms of his licence.
He is charged with two offences under the 1978 Protection of Children Act. Early stage
It is alleged that he downloaded 57 indecent images of children between February 2009 and February 2010.
He is secondly accused of distributing seven images between 1 and 23 February this year by allowing other people to access files on his computer through a peer-to-peer network.
The case is at a very early stage and will return to court on 23 July. That hearing will be the first opportunity for Venables to indicate whether he will be pleading guilty or not guilty to the alleged offences.
The Bulger family lawyer says there is "relief" Venables has been charged
Were he to plead not guilty, he would eventually appear before a jury under his new name. If he pleads guilty, the case will quickly move to sentencing.
Under the terms of Venables' anonymity order, the media is not allowed to report anything about his new identity and a jury would never know who he really is.
In March, the then Justice Secretary Jack Straw announced that Venables had been returned to prison but said that it was not in the interests of a fair trial to publicise what had allegedly happened.
Denise Fergus, James's mother, had called for the reason for the recall to be made public, saying as his mother she had "a right to know". 'Disaster'
Speaking outside court on Monday, Robin Makin, solicitor for James's father Ralph, attacked the Ministry of Justice for the way it had handled the case ever since Venables' recall.
"We consider that the way this has been handled since news of Jon Venables being recalled to custody has been a disaster," he said.
"The public authorities ought to behave quite differently and in due course further details are likely to emerge of the mistakes that were made. Ineptitude and incompetence spring to mind."
Venables and his friend Robert Thompson were jailed for life when, as 10-year-olds, they took two-year-old James from a shopping centre in Bootle.
The toddler's body was found on a disused railway line more than two miles away from where he had been taken.
Venables and Thompson were given new identities on their release from prison in 2001 because of the risk that they would be victims of a vigilante attack.
Media law expert Mark Stephens insisted that despite the publicity it was "almost certain" that Venables could get a fair trial.
He said: "The judge has gone to extraordinary lengths, as has the prosecution. They have worked with the defence to make sure that a fair trial can happen and that justice will out at the end of the day." |  |  |  |  |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10369277.stmThat's one troubled individual 
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Linux_User
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As was said at the time by a very wise Lib Dem MP - "There's a difference between what's in the public interest and what's interesting to the public".
I see no reason for him to have his identity revealed, nor any reason for the public to know the details of his recall. I don't know why the Daily Fail is getting itself in a twist about reporting his true identity in relation to this new case either.
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Amnesia10
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Well somehow you wonder about people. I doubt that they can justify giving him a new identity after messing up twice. Not at a cost of a couple of million etc. I guess he will have to keep the current identity with the sex offender registration now.
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adidan
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I guess that's what happens when you let a nation decide a childs fate, label them 'evil' rather than perhaps thinking 'in order to do something like that those kids must be extremely deserved, maybe we should see if they've been abused themselves'....
If he had been abused as a child it would not be surprising, nor unusal, for him to then commit this secondary crime. Something that could have been stamped out if we'd only heard from professionals and welfare experts at the time of the murder, like they did in Norway, and treating the cause rather than just listening to unedecated mob outbursts, and judgement, locking the kids up and calling them 'evil'.
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Amnesia10
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Yes but with their time inside and all the assistance that they were given, they will have had the opportunity to solve these problems behind closed doors.
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:32 am |
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adidan
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My point exactly, not the most condusive environment for rehabilitation of a child. In Norway even the parents of the murdered child thought it was a good idea to get the children back into school. They have not reoffended since. But then the discussion was led by psychologists and welfare specialists rather than an hysterical public.
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Amnesia10
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Yes but Norway is a much better place to live anyway. I do get frustrated when policy is dictated by the Daily Mail, who none of us voted for.
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adidan
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My GF bought that a few weeks ago, for some offer or something, so I had a read of it. I say I had a read of it but I turned every page and at the end felt like I had learned nothing about anything by the time I'd finished.
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