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Amnesia10
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Bull! They're not reliable enough. The only way to cut CO2 from power stations that much is to go with nuclear and hydroelectric.
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Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:15 pm |
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JJW009
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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They are reliable on aggregate. The sun always shines and the wind always blows somewhere. You just need a good distribution network, possibly involving hydrogen being piped across continents.
I find it interesting that the countries with the most oil also have the most sun. Not that surprising when you think about where oil comes from.
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Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:32 pm |
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Amnesia10
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And over wide enough area. Storing as hydrogen might also help boost the use of hydrogen for motoring.
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Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:27 pm |
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l3v1ck
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I think that's the only way they could do it. We've already had issues here where wind turbines have been turned off of windy days as the national grid couldn't use it. CLICKY
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Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:51 pm |
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Amnesia10
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They should use that surplus energy for creating hydrogen from water for research, then combined it could be used as a store of energy. If there was a reliable supply of hydrogen then this could replace petrol vehicles and be good for those that need longer range vehicles that electricity does not meet right now.
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Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:57 pm |
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adidan
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I've been interested in the osmosis idea for a while, the first prototype is up and running with full scale implementation possibly available in 2015 clicky
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Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:58 pm |
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ProfessorF
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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I'm: A.) A little drunk B.) Curious Could you expand on that a little?
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Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:20 am |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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You're having your first homosexual experience? 
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Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:35 am |
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Amnesia10
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TBH no one idea will solve our energy needs and reduce carbon at the same time. Though using them all and insulating as much as possible will go a long way to reducing our needs and making it easier to balance out supply, and even nuclear as a core element might make a huge difference to our economy and climate.
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belchingmatt
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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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A good priciple but with so many cities around the world building desalination plants, something tells me a few priorities are mixed up.
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Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:16 am |
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Amnesia10
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It will only work in areas with adequate fresh water.
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Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:21 am |
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adidan
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All these problems are solvable. Much more so than trying to solve the problem of nuclear waste.
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Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:31 am |
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Amnesia10
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Yes but if we got 95% of our energy from renewables we will still need nuclear as a reserve, but far fewer than if we went the mass nuclear route.
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Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:49 am |
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adidan
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Water and salt water, why the need for nuclear? You need water in nuclear reactors, why not just ditch that? What we need is a better capacity to store power, that could then be the backup.
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