Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Energy revolution could put bills up by a third 
Author Message
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
Reply with quote
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy ... third.html

Quote:
In the Coalition’s first annual energy statement to the Commons, Chris Huhne, the Energy Secretary, outlined plans to transform Britain’s power system and cut carbon emissions by 80 per cent within the next 40 years. He announced 32 separate measures, from the use of smart meters in all homes to a major expansion of renewable energy sources, including a new generation of nuclear power stations and up to 44,000 wind turbines.
However, Mr Huhne’s department admitted that such policies could increase the price of electricity by up to a third and gas by up to a fifth. This would make the average family’s annual energy bill of £1,100, £300 more expensive.
To offset this, the Energy Secretary said people would have to make “ambitious” cuts in their own consumption and improve the energy efficiency of their homes, including installing energy generators such as solar panels.

_________________
Do concentrate, 007...

"You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds."

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTk

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21


Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:19 pm
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm
Posts: 12251
Reply with quote
Hmm - we have a fireplace with a back boiler. Maybe we should look at log fires in winter instead of using the gas fire.

_________________
All the best,
Paul
brataccas wrote:
your posts are just combo chains of funny win

I’m on Twitter, tweeting away... My Photos Random Avatar Explanation


Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:37 pm
Profile
Legend

Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm
Posts: 45931
Location: Belfast
Reply with quote
Quote:
Mr Huhne’s department admitted that such policies could increase the price of electricity by up to a third and gas by up to a fifth. This would make the average family’s annual energy bill of £1,100, £300 more expensive.

To offset this, the Energy Secretary said people would have to make “ambitious” cuts in their own consumption and improve the energy efficiency of their homes, including installing energy generators such as solar panels.


What are the energy bill's like on Huhne’s planet? :roll:

_________________
Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/


Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:25 pm
Profile
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
Reply with quote
If the government actually expanded the home front grant scheme then these increases might not be so bad. Though I expect that will be cut.

_________________
Do concentrate, 007...

"You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds."

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTk

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21


Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:27 am
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm
Posts: 10691
Location: Bramsche
Reply with quote
How much does the government in the UK give as a grant for installing solar water heating or electricity panels?

We get a pretty good grant here. It is something we aer looking at doing, when we have the roof redone (it has insulation from the 70s, so v. cold in winter and v. hot in summer... We have put in a couple of modern radiators and we have filled the radiator niches with insulation material (traditional German design from the 70s had the rads sunk into the wall, which meant a single brick thickness outside... Great for space saving, crap for energy efficiency.

_________________
"Do you know what this is? Hmm? No, I can see you do not. You have that vacant look in your eyes, which says hold my head to your ear, you will hear the sea!" - Londo Molari

Executive Producer No Agenda Show 246


Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:50 am
Profile ICQ
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
Reply with quote
The energy grants are not that generous here in the UK, up to a few thousand and you do not even see the money it is done by contractors who deal with the government through the warm front agency. Also we do not have a government committed to renewables, which I know that the Germans are. 100% renewables by 2050 is the plan there. Very good for the balance of trade for Germany as well.

_________________
Do concentrate, 007...

"You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds."

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTk

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21


Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:47 am
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm
Posts: 12251
Reply with quote
Amnesia10 wrote:
The energy grants are not that generous here in the UK, up to a few thousand and you do not even see the money it is done by contractors who deal with the government through the warm front agency. Also we do not have a government committed to renewables, which I know that the Germans are. 100% renewables by 2050 is the plan there. Very good for the balance of trade for Germany as well.


This explains the number of phone calls we have and visits from various outfits trying to sell cavity wall insulation, double glazing and loft insulation. We don’t have cavity walls, and we have double glazing and the loft is insulated. They just don’t give up. Clearly they are chasing the government money before it dries up.

_________________
All the best,
Paul
brataccas wrote:
your posts are just combo chains of funny win

I’m on Twitter, tweeting away... My Photos Random Avatar Explanation


Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:06 am
Profile
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
Reply with quote
Yes that happened before. The money would run out and people would have to wait till the next year. Some probably needed it last winter and are probably getting it done now.

_________________
Do concentrate, 007...

"You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds."

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTk

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21


Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:29 am
Profile
Spends far too much time on here
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm
Posts: 3527
Location: Portsmouth
Reply with quote
Amnesia10 wrote:
The energy grants are not that generous here in the UK, up to a few thousand and you do not even see the money it is done by contractors who deal with the government through the warm front agency.


Which is a good thing!

It means the consumer doesn't have to stump up the cash initially, and they can avoid all the paperwork.

My grand-parents got their cavity wall and loft insulation done recently and it cost them £199 IIRC

_________________
Image


Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:01 pm
Profile
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
Reply with quote
I think that it is a good thing and really should be open to more people. Particularly low paid who are currently outside the scheme at the moment.

_________________
Do concentrate, 007...

"You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds."

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTk

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21


Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:40 pm
Profile
Spends far too much time on here

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm
Posts: 4860
Reply with quote
save and reduce energy usage and the prices go up and up and up
there must be something retailers can learn from this …

_________________
Hope this helps . . . Steve ...

Nothing known travels faster than light, except bad news ...
HP Pavilion 24" AiO. Ryzen7u. 32GB/1TB M2. Windows 11 Home ...


Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:58 pm
Profile
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
Reply with quote
MrStevenRogers wrote:
save and reduce energy usage and the prices go up and up and up
there must be something retailers can learn from this …

We have a very poorly regulated market. I would rather the prices of low users have their prices capped for very low use, and the price goes up the more you use. Rather then the more you use the bigger the discount. If the prices were capped and regulated for 90% of normal household use then people will have incentives to keep below that cap. Above that cap the energy companies can make their money back by charging more. A ban on transaction charges and discounts would mean that prepayment users would not be penalised. It would mean that for most people the charges will rise in line with affordability. And so if prices for the lowest users rise by a third they will rise more for bigger users.

_________________
Do concentrate, 007...

"You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds."

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTk

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21


Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:42 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 12 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 18 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software.