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Zippy
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Sweeping generalisation much? As with anything else, it's fair to say that there are good and bad of both sexes and the gender of a person has little or nothing to do with what kind of manager they are. Managers are made, not born.
_________________The Official "Saucy Minx"  This above all: To Thine Own Self Be True "Red sky at night, Shepherds Delight"..Which is a bit like Shepherds Pie, but with whipped topping instead of mashed potato.
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:13 pm |
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EddArmitage
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:31 pm |
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forquare1
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:36 pm Posts: 5161 Location: /dev/tty0
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I'd say it was the other way around, much like teachers... I think people naturally fit into management or they aspire to it and find they aren't very good at it, it's not just how many times you manage to pass the ping pong ball around the circle without using your hands on that team working weekend, it's about the person as a whole.
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:32 pm |
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Zippy
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:20 pm Posts: 3838 Location: Here Abouts
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What I meant was that people become a kind of manager based on the kind of managers they've had. When I became a manager for the first time, I was "made" by the experience I'd had with managers before. I wasn't "born" a manager just because I was born a particular gender.
_________________The Official "Saucy Minx"  This above all: To Thine Own Self Be True "Red sky at night, Shepherds Delight"..Which is a bit like Shepherds Pie, but with whipped topping instead of mashed potato.
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:36 pm |
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okenobi
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Nope. And I did preface my comment. That's my been my experience categorically without exception for over 10 years across 8 jobs. Whilst I agree that managers are shaped by how they themselves were managed. I think some people are natural leaders, but most just aren't. But that's a separate debate irrespective of gender.
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:47 pm |
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Zippy
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:20 pm Posts: 3838 Location: Here Abouts
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You stated that "Female bosses are [LIFTED]" without qualification (e.g. "In my experience") although you did then go on to state your experience. The statement is still a generalisation and I know this because I have had plenty of good female bosses so they can't all be [LIFTED]. My question was nothing to do with being PC or not, it's just a qualification issue. Your experience is obviously very different to mine, but my original summary remains, being a good or bad manager has nothing to do with gender, anymore than it has to do with eye colour or left-handedness.
_________________The Official "Saucy Minx"  This above all: To Thine Own Self Be True "Red sky at night, Shepherds Delight"..Which is a bit like Shepherds Pie, but with whipped topping instead of mashed potato.
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:18 pm |
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okenobi
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Agreed. I tend to favour generalisations, as they get my point across quickly and easily and most people who know me can interpret my various levels of exaggeration from "wild" to "absolutely true" Of course, things work differently here. The other variable to bear in mind here is the employee. I think it would be interesting to collate the experience of male employees and analyse it against female employees. I might suspect (again given my personal experience) that blokes have had better experiences with male managers, and women may be better equipped to deal with the potential intricacies of female ones. What do you think?
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:57 pm |
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