I best not mention they look really sexy inside then or I may be called a geekette (or something worse!)

It's a workstation - nobody will be looking inside it

I do *pouts*

I vote CC as Troll of the month.

Not just this month either.

Mark

I was going to say that CC is the forums best-loved troll! (8-p)

He's always done this sort of thing though. He even used to do the same on the Dennis fora.
He's not even here all that much these days, and then he comes along, starts trolling and vanishes again.

Mark

Yup. 90% of his posts are made whilst wearing his white-tinted, aluminium-framed iSpectacles, but there's something about his posts that mean they're eminently tolerable.

Like the panda, eats shoots and leaves

I didnt know he came from Cumbria

No.
Too soon.

Mark

For the machines I deal with, the average life expectancy is about 8 years

They've still got machines from the dark ages here at Antenna

What is it with people saying Macs last longer? The Mac users I know trade up far more often than most PC users I know. Our Windows servers are about 10 years old, and there's no plan to replace them because they were well specified for the job they still do. We might virtualise eventually, but the savings do not justify the cost at this time.

My Northwood P4 work station is probably 8 years old and is quite typical. One PC has been replaced recently due to hardware failure, and there being less downtime swapping it out and then fixing it later. The old machine is now back in service else where.



The monitor is not included in the £4K price tag:

Apple LED Cinema Display (24" flat panel) [+ £649.00]
Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel) [+ £1,199.00]

You should also pay for the OS. For the sake of argument, lets say 7 Ultimate is the nearest competitor. That adds £145.78 Inc VAT

The ad agency I used to work for chucked out all their Macs (from iMac G4 through to 8 core Mac Pros) and replaced them all with Windows workstations (about 20 machines), the developers already used Windows or Linux and the photo retouching and art departments had always used Windows.

What a Mac can do? The problem is, the key (non-film) applications are nearly all cross platform these days, or have good, professional equivalents under Windows. I use the iMac and I have Windows 7, to be honest, I don't see any difference in the capabilities of either, for the core applications. The only advantage of OS X is that I don't currently have to run AV software, but, given that my 1.300€ Windows laptop is faster and has more processing cores than the equivalent OS X laptop, which costs over 3.000€, that is a heck of a lot of money you could spend on professional level apps... Okay, it wouldn't cover the 4.500€ or whatever Adobe CS 5 Master Suite costs, but it is a heck of a saving, for a faster, more capable machine... It is a shame, I wanted to get a MacBook Pro, even waited an extra 6 months for Apple to "catch-up" with the rest of the market, but they still didn't equip the MacBook Pro with any high-end processors, but still priced them at twice the price of the high-end of the competition (in my case a Sony Vaio, which CC always says are over priced Windows PCs, where you are paying for the name; if I am paying extra for the Sony name and still saving over 50%, compared to the MacBook Pro, what does that make Apple, CC? ).


Ouch, you could almost get an all-in-one, touch screen PC with a 24" display for that price!

My LG 24" display cost about a third of the Apple monitor, 3 years ago. My previous LG is a 2001 model and still going strong...