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alanm
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 Hi All, I have to following PC at home  | | | | Code: Number of processors 1
Number of cores 1 per processor
Number of threads 1 per processor
Name AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Code Name Venice
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Package Socket 939
Family/Model/Stepping F.F.2
Extended Family/Model F.2F
Brand ID 4
Core Stepping DH-E6
Technology 90 nm
Core Speed 2210.1 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 11.0 x 200.9 MHz
HT Link speed 1004.6 MHz
Stock frequency 2200 MHz
Instruction sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
L1 Data cache (per processor) 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache (per processor) 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache (per processor) 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Chipset & Memory
Northbridge NVIDIA GeForce 6100 rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA nForce 410/430 MCP rev. A2
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR
Memory Size 2048 MBytes
Memory Frequency 157.9 MHz (CPU/14)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 2.5 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRCD) 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 3 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 7 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 10 clocks
DRAM Idle Timer 16 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T
System
System Manufacturer System manufacturer
System Name System Product Name
System S/N System Serial Number
Mainboard Vendor ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Mainboard Model A8N-VM
BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Version 0702
BIOS Date 01/13/2006
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I would really like to upgrade the CPU but am not sure what if any CPUs would fit. Can any please advise? cheers Alan
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okenobi
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The only thing worth bothering with is an X2 of some kind. That's IF you can find a 2nd hand one somewhere! I went from a 3000+ Venice to a X2 3800+ Toledo. Just as they went obsolete, I caught one of the last brand new retail ones for £40! Decent improvement and overclocks to 2.2ghz without a problem.
My Dad's in the same boat as you, running a San Diego 4000+. Unless you get lucky on eBay (and tbh I'm not sure about buying 2nd CPUs on there, but maybe that's just me) you're screwed. Sorry.
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alanm
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hi,
thanks for the info. So looks like a new pc then if I want a more pwerful CPU.
cheers
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veato
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Have a look at the BBBB (x404 special). The mobo and Intel E5200 are cheap and a very mild overclock to 3GHz will keep you happy for ages. I bought the E5200 for my brother as a Celeron upgrade (general use PC) with a cheap Abit board and the speed increase for the money spent was amazing.
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okenobi
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I did have a quick look on eBay and there are a few X2s on there. If you're brave enough to spend a few quid, it will make a difference. What do you use the machine for?
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vdbswong
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As well as ebay i'd check classifieds from sites that allow trading... For example a thread i noted over at Hexus: clicky. The guy wants £55 for his X2 4400+ inc. del. which isn't bad at all imo, although i haven't checked ebay prices... last time i checked to get my Opteron 165 it was about the same price. I'm sure he's also open to offers too 
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okenobi
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No need to verify, that's a great price 
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l3v1ck
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Realistically yes. Though second hand s939 X2's are available on ebay, a cheap new MD, CPU and RAM would be advisable. Even something cheap like a Pentium E5200 would be much more powerful, overclockable and power efficient than an old 90nm Athlon X2.
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okenobi
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But will cost significantly more than £50! In fact, you're looking at an absolute minimum £200, not to mention probable re-installation of OS.
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pcernie
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vdbswong
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Skim read fail  You would have at least thought to read the title...... "Socket 939" 
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pcernie
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Yes, but some of the 64 X2's did fit in a socket 939 board - I just don't know which off-hand _________________Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:
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vdbswong
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Those would be called the socket 939 64 X2's. Not the socket AM2 CPU you linked to
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| Thu May 21, 2009 10:54 pm |
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pcernie
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Yes, but many a board has been known to have new firmware applied to it - I'm not claiming to be an expert here _________________Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:
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Linux_User
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I'm not sure if there's any physical difference between the chips, but I would have thought that an AM2 processor is incapable of sitting in a 939 socket?
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