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Trouble is when you go uber far left and uber far right you end up being a twat no matter what. Hitler had both left wingers and right wingers for example.

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I've long been leaning towards thinking that 'left/right' barely exists any more in the UK. From Orwellian Labour to the Lib Dems seemingly forgetting why people voted for them in the first place, and all making the Tories look reasonable as a result :?

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The Economist is better than any daily for political coverage. In Britain it is slightly right of centre, in America they are crazy leftists.


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The Economist is better than any daily for political coverage. In Britain it is slightly right of centre, in America they are crazy leftists.


The Economist is horrendously pro-market & pro-privatisation.

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ShockWaffle wrote:
The Economist is better than any daily for political coverage. In Britain it is slightly right of centre, in America they are crazy leftists.

To be fair, anything vaguely neutral looks far left in america....

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pcernie wrote:
I've long been leaning towards thinking that 'left/right' barely exists any more in the UK.


It’s been very hard to see the gaps. New Labour started lurching to the right before they were elected, and by the time of the last General Election, they had moved so far to the right, they made the LibDems look left wing. And look where this has got us. A bewildered electorate returning an ambiguous result which should have forced another poll, but with the largest loser teaming up with the third place losers to form a government.

And look where we are now. The only people who seem prepared to speak up for the people who will be impacted by the ensuing cuts are speaking at the TUC conference this week.

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The terms "left" and "right" come from French parliament where supporters of the king sat on the right side and this for a republic sat on the left.

Left has come to mean those supposedly representing the working people, and right has come to mean those supporting the nobility and the sovereign.

The further left or right you go, the more extreme you find things.

I think that the sovereign thing with Labour is only applicable to a very few, who wanted to see the abolition of the monarchy. Personally it may be anachronous in modern Britain but could you imagine Blair or Cameron as head of state? Horrendous. I prefer the Royal family over any elected head of state. New Labour were more centre right than centre left. Though in this last election the lIberals have leapfrogged over New Labour and pushed the Tories further to the right. Leaving Labour as the only major centre or left leaning party.

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ShockWaffle wrote:
The Economist is better than any daily for political coverage. In Britain it is slightly right of centre, in America they are crazy leftists.


The Economist is horrendously pro-market & pro-privatisation.

Sometimes, but not dogmatically. They have been consistently against the idea of a carbon market because they believe that's less efficient than a tax, and they are in favour of a proper NHS for countries like America and China that don't have them. so they are certainly not some brainless extension of the Adam Smith Institute.


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