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The Money Thread - tips, advice and articles
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Amnesia10
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/pers ... -says.htmlGood news for first time buyers but not for those already in negative equity.
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:32 am |
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Amnesia10
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For Ernie NI house prices 'fell each month for three years' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11286919
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:17 am |
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pcernie
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Cheers for that Oh, and I remember the RICS basically saying at the time that this was just the way the market was in NI, all talk of a bubble was to be dismissed (maybe they should have added 'if you're a prat or have no other options') 
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Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:35 am |
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Amnesia10
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Yes there is always "There is no bubble, this time it is different" speech form all the vested interests. That fact is that it is a bubble if the prices are in excess of 4 times average earnings. It might take a while before it bursts but it is still a bubble.
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Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:38 am |
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bobbdobbs
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if it does good 
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:50 am |
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Amnesia10
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Before Maggie deregulated the mortgage market there were booms and busts in property by they were very mild in comparison. All that the deregulation has achieved is the financial destruction of many when they get foreclosed. It has led to even bigger and more savage price bubbles.
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:46 pm |
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bobbdobbs
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dont buy what you cant afford! I find so hard to feel sorry for people who overstretched to the point of stupidity. I have this quaint opinion that you buy a property for it to become a home and not a quick get rich scheme. Ho hum
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:25 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Bank of England says lenders 'not passing on rate cuts' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11369237
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:28 pm |
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leeds_manc
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Yes, I suppose a large part may be down to businessmen wanting profit, I'd have never considered that as an option before that assesment.
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:31 pm |
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rustybucket
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That analysis misses a simple trick though surely?
Surely the cost of unsecured borrowing needs to rise? It was, after all, the cheapness of and ease of access to debt that fuelled the crash in the first place.
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:38 pm |
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hifidelity2
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The crash in the 1970's was also large - it was just hidden in that inflation was running at 20%
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:53 pm |
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Amnesia10
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I would not think that the crisis was in the cost of lending but the total overall amount of lending. If the Bank of England had clamped down on the banks overall lending then we would not have had half the problems we have now. The UK is the most indebted nation in the world on a per capita basis, even more than the US, most (around 80%) is secured lending which led to a spectacular property bubble. The rest is unsecured. banks got into trouble because they ignored credit analysis and lent as much as possible. They leveraged themselves to an excessive level. Which is great for rising returns but a lousy one way bet if things deteriorate, which we all know that they did. The new Basel III standards will help to some extent but will not stop another crisis. Much tougher regulations will end that risk. I still think that there will be another major crisis within the next eight years.
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:48 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Mortgage lending falls again, lenders say http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11368953 |  |  |  | Quote: New figures have underlined the subdued state of the UK property market.
Total mortgage lending fell again in August, for the second month in a row, the Council of Mortgage Lenders (CML) said.
The number of homes sold in the UK also fell last month, by 5,000 to 85,000, HM Revenue & Customs reported.
And the property website Rightmove said estate agents' asking prices in England and Wales dropped for the third month in a row in September.
"We face the prospect of a difficult second half of the year," said the CML's chief economist Bob Pannell.
"However, the Bank of England is likely to keep interest rates at record lows for longer to support the economy. This will continue to alleviate payment pressures for many borrowers," he added.
Last week, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (Rics) said the market continued to be affected by a combination of more sellers returning to the market but fewer would-be buyers, suggesting that prices were likely to fall in the coming months. |  |  |  |  |
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:19 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Help all bank customers access web accounts, says Which? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11413090
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Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:21 am |
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pcernie
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What? Do something that might see people walk into a branch? Are you mad? 
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