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Global Dimming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming

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ProfessorF wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
There is no impact from the sun, into overall global warming. As a consequence of decades of heavy pollution the earth is actually suffering from what is called the global dimming. Whereby around 5% of the suns energy is simply not getting through to the ground. That has a cooling effect and has been ignored, yet the earth is still warming. The biggest vested interests are the oil companies.


I'm no scientist, but that sounds like nonsense to me, given the incidences of skin cancer are rising - what's happening?
Either the suns energy in the form of UV light is finding it easier to get here or humanity has become more susceptible to it's affects.
Also, given that solar activity appears to be affecting radioactive decay via an unknown mechanism, I don't think anyone can rule out just what the role of sun is in affairs here on Earth.


1. Global dimming was observed, but since the introduction of legislation to curb the emissions of particulates, the quantity of these particulates has decreased, so global dimming has actually reversed in the last 10 years.

2. UV doesn't cause heating - it's the infra-red that does. Also, clouds are transparent to UV but reflective to infra-red, so you can still have high UV without an increase in temperature. The amount of each that the sun generates varies over time, as does the amount of other solar radiation.

3. The difference in radioactive decay is fractions of one percent, and may be due to the level of neutrinos being emitted from the sun, of which 60 billion pass through an area the size of an average fingernail every second.

So, while the Sun inevitably has an impact on the climate, the processes that are going on are vastly more complex, but I think it's more likely than not that mankind is having some impact on it.

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You can see the video here. I’m not particularly impressed by it. It majors on exploding blood packs and offal.

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So, while the Sun inevitably has an impact on the climate, the processes that are going on are vastly more complex, but I think it's more likely than not that mankind is having some impact on it.


Ta for the explanation. I'm of the belief that we're seeing a natural process with a contribution from mankind - to what degree and impact is where I differ with some.

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