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Are you in support of Julian Assange and Wikileaks, in what they're doing?
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An interesting piece - http://gizmodo.com/5709194/the-reaction-of-governments-to-wikileaks-should-scare-the-hell-out-of-you

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Indeed, the reaction has been more interesting, or worrying, that the contents of the leaks themselves.

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WikiLeaks dubs Amazon 'The Cowardly Liar'

WikiLeaks has dubbed Amazon both cowardly and a liar, after the American net giant booted the whistle-blowing website from its hosting service and then said its decision had nothing to do with complaints from the US government.

"Amazon's press release does not accord with the facts on public record. It is one thing to be cowardly. Another to lie about it," WikiLeaks said in post to its Twitter account on Friday.

As of Monday, WikiLeaks was hosting its trove of classified US state department cables on the US-based portion of Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud service, and on Wednesday, US Senator Joe Lieberman, the chair of the Senate's Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, announced that after an inquiry from his staff, Amazon said it had removed WikiLeaks from the service.

“The company’s decision to cut off WikiLeaks now is the right decision and should set the standard for other companies WikiLeaks is using to distribute its illegally seized material. I call on any other company or organization that is hosting WikiLeaks to immediately terminate its relationship with them," Lieberman said in a statement

"WikiLeaks’ illegal, outrageous, and reckless acts have compromised our national security and put lives at risk around the world. No responsible company — whether American or foreign — should assist WikiLeaks in its efforts to disseminate these stolen materials. I will be asking Amazon about the extent of its relationship with WikiLeaks and what it and other web service providers will do in the future to ensure that their services are not used to distribute stolen, classified information."

Netcraft records confirmed that WikiLeaks was no longer hosted on AWS, and WikiLeaks soon tweeted that its mirrors were removed against its wishes. "WikiLeaks servers at Amazon ousted," it said. "Free speech the land of the free — fine our $ are now spent to employ people in Europe." According to internet records, the site fell back on servers in Sweden.

Amazon did not respond to repeated requests for comment from The Register. But more than a day later, the company published a blog post claiming it had not removed WikiLeaks in response to government inquiries. "There have been reports that a government inquiry prompted us not to serve WikiLeaks any longer," the post said. "That is inaccurate."

The company also said it had not removed the mirrors due to DDoS attacks. It said that WikiLeaks was booted because the site wasn't following its terms of service. "AWS does not pre-screen its customers, but it does have terms of service that must be followed. WikiLeaks was not following them. [For instance], it’s clear that WikiLeaks doesn’t own or otherwise control all the rights to this classified content," the company said.

"Further, it is not credible that the extraordinary volume of 250,000 classified documents that WikiLeaks is publishing could have been carefully redacted in such a way as to ensure that they weren’t putting innocent people in jeopardy. Human rights organizations have in fact written to WikiLeaks asking them to exercise caution and not release the names or identities of human rights defenders who might be persecuted by their governments."

The company added that it has no problems hosting "controversial" data, but that the WikiLeaks situation is a separate case. "When companies or people go about securing and storing large quantities of data that isn’t rightfully theirs, and publishing this data without ensuring it won’t injure others, it’s a violation of our terms of service, and folks need to go operate elsewhere."

But the timing of the decision is telling.

Assange: 'It was all part of my master plan...'

On October 25, The Register reported that WikiLeaks was mirroring data on Amazon servers in both the US and Ireland, including the classifed "Iraq War logs." But aside from a brief mention on The Daily Telegraph website, the news received little mention in the mainstream media. We contacted Amazon at the time and alerted them to the mirrors, but the company did not respond.

Then, earlier this week, we reported that WikiLeaks had hoisted its "cablegate" documents onto Amazon, and this time, the news was picked up by the Wall Street Journal and several other major news outlets. The Joe Liebermans of the world, you see, read The Wall Street Journal.

What's more, a day after Amazon booted WikiLeaks, the site was also ousted by its US-based DNS provider, EveryDNS. Last month, we spoke to EveryDNS about WikiLeaks' use of its service, and though it declined to discuss the accounts of specific customers, it said it would only remove customers if they violated its terms of service. We also spoke to Dynadot, WikiLeaks' US-based domain name registrar. President Todd Han echoed what EveryDNS told us, but he did add that it typically only removes sites for violations if it receives a complaint from an injured party.

"Usually, most of the time, we resonded to complaints, but sometimes we will take action on our own if it violates our terms of service," Han told us. "If they violate the law, they violate terms of service. But with these kinds of situations with domains, there are two sides of the story. There's a lot of grey areas."

Indeed.

Like Amazon, EveryDNS did not boot WikiLeaks until this week — more than a month after we first spoke to the company about the site. Unlike Amazon, it said that it removed WikiLeaks due to DDos attacks on the site. "The services were terminated for violation of the provision which states that 'Member shall not interfere with another Member's use and enjoyment of the Service or another entity's use and enjoyment of similar services'," EveryDNS said in a statement.

"The interference at issue arises from the fact that wikileaks.org has become the target of multiple distributed denial of service (DDOS) attacks. These attacks have, and future attacks would, threaten the stability of the EveryDNS.net infrastructure, which enables access to almost 500,000 other websites."

Naturally, WikiLeaks has simply moved its service elsewhere. Booted by its DNS provider, the site has resurfaced on a Swiss net domain. "WikiLeaks moves to Switzerland http://wikileaks.ch/, read another Tweet from WikiLeaks.

In other words, the whole saga has played out just as expected. "Even if Amazon is insulated from liability, I suspect Amazon will choose to remove the content 'voluntarily' (motivated by a little persuasion from the government), presumably citing a breach of its terms of service as a pretext," Santa Clara law professor and tech law blogger Eric Goldman told The Reg a month ago.

"A more 'ideological' web host would probably fight more vigorously for its users' publishing rights than Amazon will." Unless a federal crime has been committed, Amazon is not legally required to remove the data, and it's unclear whether WikiLeaks is committing a criminal act.

And echoing other suspicions from late October, WikiLeaks founder has now claimed that the site purposefully mirrored its data on Amazon's servers to expose the company's "free speech deficit."

"Since 2007 we have been deliberately placing some of our servers in jurisdictions that we suspected suffered a free speech deficit in order to separate rhetoric from reality," Assange said on Friday during a live chat on The Guardian's website. "Amazon was one of these cases." ®

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/03 ... n_ousting/

I should point out that's slightly older news, but still worth a read, I feel :)

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New Competition For Wikileaks Shows Up -- Say Hello To OpenLeaks

from the are-we-going-to-jail-them-too? dept

Like many folks, I'm somewhat conflicted about Wikileaks as an organization. It's been clear for quite some time that it has some organizational issues, to put it mildly. However, as we've pointed out the concept behind Wikileaks is inevitable, and we fully expected that even if Wikileaks itself went away, others would quickly step up to take its place. Last month, we noted that some former Wikileakers (who were not at all happy with Assange's leadership) were planning a new competitor.

Slashdot points us to the news that their offering, to be called OpenLeaks, is expected to launch next week. The new operation claims it will function slightly differently than Wikileaks, but with the same general intent: allowing whistleblowers to leak sensitive information. The main difference appears to be that OpenLeaks won't publish information directly, but will offer it up to others to publish. I'm not entirely sure how that will work, but either way it seems to be clear that even if the US government were successful in somehow making Wikileaks "go away," it won't stop the general trend towards systems and institutions designed to help whistleblowing.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201012 ... eaks.shtml

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It they don't publish the material directly, then the general public won't have access. How is that possibly in favour of openness and transparency?

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The thing is I was watching Newsnight the other night and if the US want to deport them it'll be to do with redistributing the cables provided to him, he will be equally culpable, apparently, as those who release them to Wikileaks.

However, are they then going to try and deport the whole of the Newspaper industry in the UK that is further redistributing the cables that Wikileaks redistributed? Aren't they, under that logic, equally culpable?

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It they don't publish the material directly, then the general public won't have access. How is that possibly in favour of openness and transparency?


I'm assuming it'll be similar to what Wikileaks already does, giving it to the Guardian etc :|

Palin in cyberwar with London based Wikileaks supporters

Sarah Palin has said she is under heavy cyber attack from London-based supporters of the Wikileaks website.

Palin, a vocal opponent of Wikileaks' release of communications made by US diplomats, said in an email to ABC News that her credit card information and website were attacked by a group of hackers in London. The group, she said, was affiliated with 'Operation Payback', and had also targeted her husband's credit card.

The Palin site remains offline as of Thursday morning.

The attacks come only a week after Palin, widely tipped as a Republican candidate for US president in 2012, said the Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, should be hunted down in the way armed forces target the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.In an outburst on Facebook, Palin had branded Assange "an anti-American operative with blood on his hands".After the attack on her site, Palin wrote: "This is what happens when you exercise the First Amendment and speak against his [Assange's] sick, un-American espionage efforts."

This week, the same group of hackers, acting under the name 'Anonymous', also hit the domains of Visa and Mastercard, bringing the sites to a halt and hitting payments.

Details from the Wikileaks cables have been plastered all over social networking sites and newspapers for the past two weeks. The Amazon website is selling an ebook with all of the cables - even though days earlier it said it had stopped providing cloud services to Wikileaks.

A technical aide to the SarahPac website told ABC that the "DOS [denial of service] attackers, a group loosely known as Anon_Ops, used a tool called LOIC (Lower Orbit Ion Cannon) to flood arahpac.com. The attackers wanted us to know that they were affiliated with wikileaks.org through an obscure message in our server log file."

Wikileaks has sought to distance itself somewhat from the attacks. A spokesperson told the Guardian newspaper: "Anonymous ... is not affiliated with WikiLeaks. There has been no contact between any WikiLeaks staffer and anyone at Anonymous. We neither condemn nor applaud these attacks."

But the spokesperson added: "We believe [the attacks] are a reflection of public opinion on the actions of the targets."

Another Sarah Palin aide, Rebecca Mansour, said the SarahPac website was not harmed because the web team moved "quickly" to protect the site.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.c ... ID=3252767

She wouldn't get away with it if she wasn't so hot... :lol: ;)

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Sarah Palin has said she is under heavy cyber attack from London-based supporters of the Wikileaks website.

She should be arrested for inciting murder after she bascially called for Assange's head on a pole.

TBH I'm surprised she even knows what 'cyber' means.

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One of the comments on that page rang very true..
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The hilarious aspect of this whole wikileaks saga is how f**king hypocritical some of my fellow Americans (mostly politicians) are. If this was Assange and co. releasing embarrassing cables from China or Russia, they'd be chest bumping and masturbating about how these freedom loving people need to be protected. They're paradigms of what the good o'l US of A stand for!

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The thing is I was watching Newsnight the other night and if the US want to deport them it'll be to do with redistributing the cables provided to him, he will be equally culpable, apparently, as those who release them to Wikileaks.

However, are they then going to try and deport the whole of the Newspaper industry in the UK that is further redistributing the cables that Wikileaks redistributed? Aren't they, under that logic, equally culpable?

I think that the press have First Amendment rights, which would also apply to wikileaks. There was a commentator on Newsnight who thought that would also have the same protection.

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I think that the press have First Amendment rights, which would also apply to wikileaks. There was a commentator on Newsnight who thought that would also have the same protection.

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The Americans have had the time between the McKinnon hacks and the Wikileaks debacle to sort their computer security out. Instead of shutting the door after the first horse bolted, all they’ve done is pomp and twit about how the first one hot away, not noticing that another was getting free.

These cables are apparently held on a network which is accessible to any grunt in the military. If true, then why is this not being questioned more vocally instead of wanting to shoot the messenger?

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why is this not being questioned more vocally instead of wanting to shoot the messenger?


Duh! Haven't we Brattied on enough about that for it to be clear??


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The Americans have had the time between the McKinnon hacks and the Wikileaks debacle to sort their computer security out. Instead of shutting the door after the first horse bolted, all they’ve done is pomp and twit about how the first one hot away, not noticing that another was getting free.

These cables are apparently held on a network which is accessible to any grunt in the military. If true, then why is this not being questioned more vocally instead of wanting to shoot the messenger?

From what I heard was that they had a huge network with more than 3 million having access to them on a centralised server and it was simply a statistical certainty that they would be leaked at some point. So yes the US government are looking in the wrong direction again. Though as far as I am concerned these leaks are more embarrassing than a risk to security. From the leaks that I have heard it seems to be mainly opinions of others by others. As far as school yard law goes sticks and stones may break my bones but words shall never hurt me. :lol:

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