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Amnesia10
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Angry of Chatham? Moaning about their stolen snowman?  _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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AlunD
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Oh no it has to be at least disgruntled of Royal Tunbridge Wells ! 
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm
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The problem with this (as occurs in say the Italian or Israel parliaments) is that small parties with no mandate can end up with excessive power as king makers. They can end up blocking important legislation because it might have a negative impact in their area. You could say that this is what happens in the US senate so ending up in what is called “Pork Barrel Policies” – i.e. I will vote for (and so pass) this country wide beneficial policy if you invest X million in my area
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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We need to take the executive out of the legislature, IMO. The "payroll vote" in Parliament is ridiculous, especially considering the incoming reduction in the number of MPs.
Of course that means an end to Parliamentary democracy, but it's probably the best way*
*Unless we can secure a significant reduction in the number of Ministers and Parliamentary Private Secretaries.
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Amnesia10
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In a two party system? No that is just corruption. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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hifidelity2
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You (and I) might call it corruption - they would say it’s working in the best interests of their constituents. e.g. The government says it’s going to relocate a major dept from London to somewhere else with the creation of X thousand jobs in that area. I (As the above politician) just want to make sure that it goes to my area –because A) I want to help my constituents B) I want to get re-elected C) I want to get re-elected D) I want......
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Amnesia10
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Well moving a government department to a unemployment blackspot is not necessarily corrupt. I do see a point of politicians trying to get money spent in their constituencies but a better way has to be found to do it. So much is actually wasted during the process. In America much was made of the road or bridge to nowhere because it spent money in the state, as stimulus is was good, but no long term practical benefits for the community. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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MrStevenRogers
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PPR any one
i have been banging on about it for years ...
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Amnesia10
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Any that is representative of the people is good. Annual elections will also be good as it can allow the public to get rid of extremist governments before too much damage is done. If we had a election in a few months we could see the end of the coalition as the liberals are decimated and even the Labour suffer for failing to offer solutions. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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Linux_User
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Annual elections don't offer much in the way of stability or capacity for forward planning...
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Amnesia10
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It can be a bad thing. Look at Switzerland, annual elections and they do well enough. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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okenobi
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The Swiss system is far more devolved and representative though. Plus those lot actually give a [LIFTED].
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HeatherKay
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Good point, well made. Over here, it's bread and circuses. Keep the plebs fed and distracted, and they won't notice anything amiss until it's too late. _________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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bobbdobbs
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