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I can see my missus and I having an argument on what religion to put down for our son.
I said I didn't mind her raising him as a catholic like her, but since she's made no effort to do so as she's fed up with the church, I think no religion would be more suitable.

How old is the boy? Is he old enough to ask?

It's a tough one and no mistake. I don't envy you on that one.

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I can see my missus and I having an argument on what religion to put down for our son.
I said I didn't mind her raising him as a catholic like her, but since she's made no effort to do so as she's fed up with the church, I think no religion would be more suitable.

How old is the boy? Is he old enough to ask?

It's a tough one and no mistake. I don't envy you on that one.

Two

Well he is the right age for Jedi training. ;)

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Well he is the right age for Jedi training. ;)
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I would have thought EU law would prevent such a disclosure TBH - the data is in the European Union, and is therefore subject to EU privacy safeguards.

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I would have thought EU law would prevent such a disclosure TBH - the data is in the European Union, and is therefore subject to EU privacy safeguards.

Yes, but the Americans have scary bombs and stuff. They're world renowned for being psychopathic enough to use them. Being right is small comfort when you've been blown into a billion pieces, so most people surrender their principles to the self-proclaimed "world police" on demand.

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I would have thought EU law would prevent such a disclosure TBH - the data is in the European Union, and is therefore subject to EU privacy safeguards.

Yes, but the Americans have scary bombs and stuff. They're world renowned for being psychopathic enough to use them. Being right is small comfort when you've been blown into a billion pieces, so most people surrender their principles to the self-proclaimed "world police" on demand.

The actual issue is that under the terms of The Patriot Act, a US company can be compelled to hand over personal data in it's possession and also be disallowed from revealing they have done so. So you'll have a US company faced with either breaking the law in the US, or breaking the law in the EU in a way that it would be very hard for anyone in the EU to find out about. Hmm... wonder which way that's going to go...


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What possible interest could the American government have in any of our census entries? I recommend finding more important things to be aghast and disgusted about.


I'm not sure they'd be anything of interest to anyone about the data captured about me in the census. In fact you'd probably find more by googling my name.

I'm not exactly going to get up in arms about it tbh.

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What possible interest could the American government have in any of our census entries? I recommend finding more important things to be aghast and disgusted about.


I'm not sure they'd be anything of interest to anyone about the data captured about me in the census. In fact you'd probably find more by googling my name.

I'm not exactly going to get up in arms about it tbh.

I am concerned because of the privacy issues with a US company doing it. Though as you say I am also not that worried about my personal data that it might divulge. It will be identical to the previous census form I filled.

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I'm not exactly going to get up in arms about it tbh.


I don't exactly recall the 2001 census questions, but I'm pretty sure they didn't want to know my qualifications, my salary, whether I'm looking for work or not. It seems they want to know a good deal more about me than just my nationality (English is now an option, which is nice), where I live, what I do for a living, and how long I've been here.

It may well all be perfectly innocuous, but I am not keen on sharing more information than I have to. Besides, if they only wanted to know, all the above info is online somewhere, or with HMRC. :lol:

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I shall actively pursue legal methods to avoid adding info to this year's census.


Keep us informed


*BUMP*

Well, there isn't much wiggle room, to be honest. :evil:

However, it does appear that a significant minority of those who complete the census forms use bogus information. In other words, if you're not happy about the intrusive nature, make sh!t up. Even your name and age, if you want.

There are other cases I've found where folk have literally just thrown the thing away. For over four decades. With no comeback. Maybe they've just been lucky. Putting "Human Being" for nationality also seems to vex the authorities!

Here's the ONS report on the aftermath of the 2001 census.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001 ... ancees.asp

So, I'm not sure quite how we're going to sidestep the intrusiveness of the questions.

For information, here are links from the ONS census site to PDFs showing the questions they're going to ask in England and Wales. I can't find the Scottish and NI ones at the moment.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011-censu ... ngland.pdf
http://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011-censu ... -wales.pdf

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However, it does appear that a significant minority of those who complete the census forms use bogus information. In other words, if you're not happy about the intrusive nature, make sh!t up. Even your name and age, if you want.

*strokes imaginary beard*

Interesting..

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http://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011-census/2011-census-questionnaire-content/2011-census-questions---england.pdf


I think in questions 15 & 16, I’ll be writing European.

Question 17, I’ll be writing "Trumpton”.

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I can see my missus and I having an argument on what religion to put down for our son.
I said I didn't mind her raising him as a catholic like her, but since she's made no effort to do so as she's fed up with the church, I think no religion would be more suitable.

How old is the boy? Is he old enough to ask?

It's a tough one and no mistake. I don't envy you on that one.

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How can a child of that age have a faith or a religion? A child could be classified as a “child of a Catholic” or a “child of a muslim” but until that child is capable of making the decision for him or herself, I’d argue that the child has no faith or belief at all. A two year old will be hardly aware of the larger world around it outside of the family home and various aunts, uncles and grandparents.

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You could really have a lot of fun with most of the questions.

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H2 Counting everyone you included in H1, how many people usually live here?


About 43, except on Thursdays when it's 71.

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H14 In total, how many cars or vans are owned, or available for use, by members of this household?


It depends on how many Brooklyn can break into on a given day.

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5 Do you stay at another address for more than 30 days a year?


I have a tree house I ship out to when life indoors gets on top of me. The birdsong is soothing.

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12 Including the time you have already spent here, how long do you intend to stay in the United Kingdom?


Until I'm fed into the local crematorium, probably.

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13 How is your health in general?


Mustn't grumble. Just the odd twinge on the left knee, and a bit of rheumatism after standing at the bus stop for the number twelve.

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15 How would you describe your national identity?


Bajoran.

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16 What is your ethnic group?
B. Mixed / multiple ethnic groups • White and Black Caribbean • White and Black African • White and Asian
• Any other Mixed / multiple ethnic background, write in


Mainly Anglo-Saxon with some Celt, Roman, and hints of Jute and Dane. Possibly a bit of Pomeranian, too.

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17 This question is intentionally left blank go to 18


Like my mind, after a Friday night out.

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18 What is your main language?


Unwinese. Mostly. Deep folly.

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19 How well can you speak English?


Can you repeel the questibole, please, oh yes?

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21 One year ago, what was your usual address?


To you, madam.

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22 What passports do you hold?


Many, but none of them mine.

I could go on, but I won't.

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