Reply to topic  [ 98 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 7  Next
Android security issues. 
Author Message
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
Posts: 17040
Reply with quote
Google patches out the recently discovered vulnerabilities

However, the patch only works if you have Android 2.2 or better. Google's own stats say up to 40% of the Android phones in use are still running 2.1 or earlier and in lots of cases it's up to the phone manufacturers or telcos to configure and distribute the update. Several manufacturers (SE for one, IIRC) have previously said they won't be issuing OS updates for phones which are no longer on sale.

Jon


Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:17 pm
Profile
Legend

Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm
Posts: 45931
Location: Belfast
Reply with quote
^ That sort of thing is 'Droid's one big downfall if I were considering it.

_________________
Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/


Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:51 pm
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm
Posts: 8767
Location: behind the sofa
Reply with quote
pcernie wrote:
^ That sort of thing is 'Droid's one big downfall if I were considering it.

My biggest complaint is just that a lot of things seem rather flaky and unrefined. I guess if I wanted "refined" I should have chosen an iPhone, but I don't want to have to buy a Mac and pay however much it is for a developers licence just to put my own code on it - let alone the horrors of iTunes and lack of SD card :x

_________________
jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly."

When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net


Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:38 pm
Profile WWW
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
Posts: 17040
Reply with quote
JJW009 wrote:
pay however much it is for a developers licence just to put my own code on it

That 99 quid is just an insurmountable barrier, isn't it :roll:


Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:46 pm
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm
Posts: 5490
Location: just behind you!
Reply with quote
jonbwfc wrote:
JJW009 wrote:
pay however much it is for a developers licence just to put my own code on it

That 99 quid is just an insurmountable barrier, isn't it :roll:

99 quid plus having to buy a mac can be a rather large barrier to some :roll: :lol: ;)

_________________
johnwbfc wrote:
I care not which way round it is as long as at some point some sort of semi-naked wrestling is involved.

Amnesia10 wrote:
Yes but the opportunity to legally kill someone with a giant dildo does not happen every day.

Finally joined Flickr


Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:27 pm
Profile
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:12 pm
Posts: 1171
Reply with quote
Google's view on this:
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... urity.html

_________________
Image
Free Sim with £5 credit


Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:28 pm
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
Posts: 17040
Reply with quote
As far as I can see, Google has acted reasonably in this regard, The problem is with the phone manufacturers who, by not issuing updates for all their android phones even in circumstances such as this, are putting their own commercial interest ahead of the security of their user's data. I find that pretty reprehensible.


Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:41 pm
Profile
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:12 pm
Posts: 1171
Reply with quote
Ok, this is very interesting: Amazon has it's own Android app store and it says:
Quote:
We will test the apps before publishing them in our store. Our goal is to help ensure customers have a good experience with the apps they buy from us – and to protect customers from malware and other harmful situations.

http://www.androidcentral.com/amazon-la ... per-portal

I have to say it: ANDROID IS AWESOME!! And it IS open!
This is the way people!

_________________
Image
Free Sim with £5 credit


Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:42 pm
Profile
Has a life
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 1:43 pm
Posts: 76
Location: Newtownabbey, Northern Ireland
Reply with quote
koli wrote:
Ok, this is very interesting: Amazon has it's own Android app store and it says:
Quote:
We will test the apps before publishing them in our store. Our goal is to help ensure customers have a good experience with the apps they buy from us – and to protect customers from malware and other harmful situations.

http://www.androidcentral.com/amazon-la ... per-portal

I have to say it: ANDROID IS AWESOME!! And it IS open!
This is the way people!


Android is average...and just what does "open" mean? The link you provide is to a monitored app store which will block apps considered to be malware or "harmful", does that make it open or closed, or slightly ajar.
Open is an illusion of freedom and, far to often, an excuse for lack of quality.

_________________
and all of your friends have gone before you, and there are strangers in the seats of the mighty, who do not know you, nor your triumphs, nor your incredible value.


Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:39 pm
Profile
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:57 am
Posts: 1652
Reply with quote
koli wrote:
I have to say it: ANDROID IS AWESOME!! And it IS open!
This is the way people!


I am wondering why open is good. Sounds like open is a bad thing if it means that my bank details can be sent to Nigeria. Why is the Amazon store not open?

Is Android good for developers? The average payout for an app. on the ITunes App store is about $7,700 per app. $2,000,000,000 paid out on 260,000 paid apps

The last I heard (and it was a while ago) Android developers were getting about 2% of the iOS developers Clicky. IF that is true then a typical paid Android app will pay out $154 per app.

It may be an awesome platform to develop for but even so…

BTW Figures are vague because I could find no Wiki on Android payouts.

:|

_________________
A Mac user Image


Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:43 pm
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm
Posts: 7173
Reply with quote
Android is average? Are you serious?

It's easily better than every other smartphone platform bar iOS, and even then it's not far behind iOS.

As for the "openness" - the point is other companies are free to run and develop their own "app stores" - developers are not forced to use Google's marketplace, unlike iOS where all app. developers must use the App. store.

_________________
timark_uk wrote:
That's your problem. You need Linux. That'll fix all your problems.
Mark


Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:53 pm
Profile
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:57 am
Posts: 1652
Reply with quote
Linux_User wrote:
As for the "openness" - the point is other companies are free to run and develop their own "app stores" -


Well, I can see some sense in that.

As long as there are safe places to download from. The idea of "open" does not give me confidence so a third party (like Amazon) checking stuff on my behalf pleases me.

CC

_________________
A Mac user Image


Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:30 am
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm
Posts: 5490
Location: just behind you!
Reply with quote
ChurchCat wrote:
Is Android good for developers? The average payout for an app. on the ITunes App store is about $7,700 per app. $2,000,000,000 paid out on 260,000 paid apps

In this case average can be misleading. What is the spread? An expensive app (such as Tom Tom @ £49.99 & £54.99 can skew the average (mean) quite dramatically.
How much revenue is generated from within the app and how much goes through Apple etc. Theres a lot of data missing to say which is better for developers.

_________________
johnwbfc wrote:
I care not which way round it is as long as at some point some sort of semi-naked wrestling is involved.

Amnesia10 wrote:
Yes but the opportunity to legally kill someone with a giant dildo does not happen every day.

Finally joined Flickr


Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:10 am
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
Posts: 17040
Reply with quote
bobbdobbs wrote:
ChurchCat wrote:
Is Android good for developers? The average payout for an app. on the ITunes App store is about $7,700 per app. $2,000,000,000 paid out on 260,000 paid apps

In this case average can be misleading. What is the spread? An expensive app (such as Tom Tom @ £49.99 & £54.99 can skew the average (mean) quite dramatically.

If you look in iTunes at the 'top grossing' apps they do tend to be the high cost 'full fat' apps like TomTom's stuff but there a a couple of cheap apps there. If you look at the top sellers (i.e. simple sales volume) that chart tends to be dominated by the 59p crowd. I'd say the mean is somewhat skewed by the spread of prices but I don't think it's too bad. I think it's very possible to make $7K from a 59p app, although I suspect there are few who do - you're much more likely to make more than that or pretty much nothing.

bobbdobbs wrote:
How much revenue is generated from within the app and how much goes through Apple etc. Theres a lot of data missing to say which is better for developers.

In app purchases on iOS also use the AppleStore payment mechanism - until they changed the subscription rules, that was the only way you could do it - so total revenue for an app includes in-app purchases. In fact there are a couple of apps in the 'top grossing' charts that must be there purely on in-app purchases as the 'base app' itself is free.

Jon


Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:14 am
Profile
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:12 pm
Posts: 1171
Reply with quote
wolfie2 wrote:
what does "open" mean? The link you provide is to a monitored app store which will block apps considered to be malware or "harmful", does that make it open or closed, or slightly ajar.
Open is an illusion of freedom and, far to often, an excuse for lack of quality.


You are looking at it wrong way. With android you get options. You have open app store from google where anything goes, but it comes with risks of malware as google doesn't check every single app. When you want something that is safe Amazon will provide it for you in their appstore. So you get to choose. And app store are not the only way to get apps, you can download them directly from developers and Google won't care. If you want to do the same with Iphone you have to jailbreak it.

If you absolutely must have "Screaming japanese girls" or "iboobs" apps you can have it, nobody will stop. But you don't have to have it if you don't want to.
With iphone Apple will say that you can have only what they allow you to have. And I am not talking only about porn, it goes for everything (Firefox anyone?)

With apple you get: secure appstore
With android you get: secure appstore (amazon) AND open appstore (google) AND you can download anything you want from anywhere you want

You don't need me to draw you a diagram, do you? ;)

And I can't believe you people are complaing that androids apps are too cheap! :roll: :roll:
If you want to pay more then donate to developer...

_________________
Image
Free Sim with £5 credit


Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:24 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 98 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 7  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software.