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Paul1965
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'Don't panic': Obama calls for calm as terrified Americans panic-buy anti-radiation drugs and Geiger counters over nuclear fall-out fears.   NO! Really? More here.
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JJW009
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It's that heat of decay which the bloke on the wireless said was dissipated purely by passive convection in modern designs. He was supposed to be an expert, so I believed him. _________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
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jonbwfc
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 Very possible. These are quite old reactors though... clickyLA TImes reports power has been restored to the facility as a whole, however some of the main cooling systems have been damaged beyond repair by the various catastrophes they have undergone and the reactors are effectively now on life support - the only cooling they are getting is what's been brought in as emergency measures. Other reports suggest extra staff have been allowed to return to the plants to deal with the current state of the reactors. The problems now appear to be the spent fuel pools - apparently water levels in the pools at Daiishi 2, 3 and 4 are dangerously low and spent fuel rods have been exposed to the air, leading to serious (but localised) radiation leaks. Sir John Beddington, the UK's chief scientific officer, is quoted as saying, Again, the information being published seems at times contradictory and uncorroborated. The Chairman of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission Greg Jaczko particularly seems to have spent most of the day telling a US congressional committee things I find it very hard to believe he knows to be fact. He seems to be erring on the absolute worst case scenario, probably to cover his own back.
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ProfessorF
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Fingers crossed this putative follow up quake doesn't happen then.
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adidan
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 | | | | Code: DATE and TIME (UTC) LAT LONG MAG DEPTH km REGION
17-MAR-2011 07:03:44 37.36 142.73 4.7 21.9 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 07:00:12 38.73 143.87 4.9 46.0 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 06:42:46 38.71 143.91 5.2 36.4 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 06:24:31 37.25 142.29 5.3 24.9 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 06:19:42 37.60 143.46 4.6 25.0 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 06:12:42 37.75 143.45 5.7 25.0 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 05:07:00 38.03 143.54 5.2 25.4 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 04:13:58 40.20 142.24 5.8 35.7 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 03:50:54 36.31 142.82 5.2 20.5 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 03:43:58 38.19 142.71 4.5 38.2 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 02:48:32 39.64 142.84 4.8 20.1 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 01:08:01 36.39 142.89 5.0 20.0 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
17-MAR-2011 00:42:49 37.38 143.70 5.0 25.0 OFF EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN | | | | |
From http://www.iris.edu/seismon/It's been continuously active for some time. I worry it's only a lull before a repeat storm.
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ProfessorF
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Time to get the Thorium reactor systems worked out, really, isn't it?
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adidan
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Years ago I saw a diagram in the Times, i think, about a prototype that was supposed to be being built. Cheap, relatively clean as it's pretty easy to get a hold of, no possibility of meltdown, no possiblilty of making weapons grade material and a way to dispose of radioactive waste. Would have thought more progress would have been made by now.
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Fogmeister
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Reading from wiki it say that 1 ton of Thorium contains the equivalent amount of energy as 200 tons of uranium and 3.5 million tons of fossil fuels. There have been prototypes built but nothing more (again according to wiki).
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I imagine that the road blocks are all political. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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adidan
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Yup, talk about cheap green energy but do sod all about it on a useful level.
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Linux_User
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Is anyone else reminded of the nuclear storyline in The West Wing (Episode 144 "Duck and Cover")?
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Possibly too many vested interests to overcome. The Saudis would privately threaten things if governments make serious efforts to get off oil. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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belchingmatt
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Excellent, in 6 months time there will be a glut of particle detectors going for a song on eBay.
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belchingmatt
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Libya is now currently the top news story on the BBC.
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