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Your iPhone is watching you...
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forquare1
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:36 pm Posts: 5161 Location: /dev/tty0
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With the reliability of this, it's a non-issue. Looking back over the logs I am hardly ever in Aber or Machy, however that is where I spend over 90% of my time...
Since Christmas I've not be further North than Crewe yet it thinks I've been to Scotland, and quite Northernly Scotland at that. I've not been further South than Bath, yet it thinks I've been to the South coast including areas of Devon and Cornwall. And I've not travelled overseas, yet it quite clearly states I've been to several places in Ireland...
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Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:50 am |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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The Michigan police now routinely download the contents of mobile phones when they stop somebody. That have a special device, which downloads the contents of the 'phone to its own storage system, which can be used to check the contents at leisure... The combination of the two is worrying, if they stop you randomly, then download the phone and find out you were in the vicinity of an unsolved crime 6 months ago... 
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Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:02 pm |
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koli
Doesn't have much of a life
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Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:52 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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I'm amazed that police in some US states can look through private data without a court order. 
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:21 pm |
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jonbwfc
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Has any evidence gathered in this way ever actually been brought to court? I'd be interested to see if it's legality has actually been challenged or not.
Jon
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Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:42 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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I don't think it would stand at all. Firstly there appear to be lots of errors, and secondly even if your phone was there there is no guarantee that you were. Perhaps it could indicate that you were in a certain location and then other means such as CCTV used from there.
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:25 pm |
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koli
Doesn't have much of a life
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Bad news for Android users:  |  |  |  | Quote: Like iOS, Android stores these databases in an area that is only accessible by root. To access the caches, an Android device needs to be "rooted," which removes most of the system's security features. Unlike iOS, though, Android phones aren't typically synced with a computer, so the files would need to be extracted from a rooted device directly. This distinction makes the data harder to access for the average user, but easy enough for an experienced hacker or forensic expert.
Another important difference, according to developer Mike Castelman, is that Android keeps less data overall than iOS devices. "The main difference that I can see is that Android seems to have a cache versus iOS's log," Castleman, who contributed some code improvements to Eriksson's tool, told Ars. That is, Android appears to limit the caches to 50 entries for cell tower triangulation and 200 entries for WiFi basestation location. iOS's consolidated.db, on the other hand, seems to keep a running tally of data since iOS is first installed and activated on a device. iOS will also keep multiple records of the same tower or basestation, while Android only keeps a single record. |  |  |  |  |
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/201 ... access.ars
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Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:47 pm |
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paulzolo
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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 |  |  |  | koli wrote: Bad news for Android users:  |  |  |  | Quote: Like iOS, Android stores these databases in an area that is only accessible by root. To access the caches, an Android device needs to be "rooted," which removes most of the system's security features. Unlike iOS, though, Android phones aren't typically synced with a computer, so the files would need to be extracted from a rooted device directly. This distinction makes the data harder to access for the average user, but easy enough for an experienced hacker or forensic expert.
Another important difference, according to developer Mike Castelman, is that Android keeps less data overall than iOS devices. "The main difference that I can see is that Android seems to have a cache versus iOS's log," Castleman, who contributed some code improvements to Eriksson's tool, told Ars. That is, Android appears to limit the caches to 50 entries for cell tower triangulation and 200 entries for WiFi basestation location. iOS's consolidated.db, on the other hand, seems to keep a running tally of data since iOS is first installed and activated on a device. iOS will also keep multiple records of the same tower or basestation, while Android only keeps a single record. |  |  |  |  |
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/201 ... access.ars |  |  |  |  |
I have already stated that I would be surprised if Android or Windows Mobile didn’t do this. I’m waiting for the hat trick. There is already a handy tool out there to show you a nice map if you have an iPhone. I would think it would not be beyond the wit of an “experienced hacker” to extract the data from an Android phone and display it in similar fashion. I give that a week.
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