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PaulKey
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13268633I wonder whether justice will now be done. The words of the solicitor representing the family kind of sum it up for me. "To many, today's verdict will seem like a statement of the blindingly obvious".
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Tue May 03, 2011 3:35 pm |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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I bet the CPS “runs out of time” like they have in the past.
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Tue May 03, 2011 4:02 pm |
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PaulKey
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:18 am Posts: 385
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I hope that's not the case Paul. In the words of someone I consider a very great musician and songwriter "and the eyes of the world are watching now..."Ok... maybe not the world but I suspect many in this country.
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Tue May 03, 2011 4:28 pm |
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HeatherKay
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
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I think it's too late to charge Harwood with murder. I fear the most he'll be charged with is manslaughter. 
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Tue May 03, 2011 4:29 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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The Met will probably get slapped with a Health and Safety violation as they were with Jean charles de Menezes. 
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Tue May 03, 2011 4:55 pm |
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PaulKey
Occasionally has a life
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In my view Simon Harwood should be charged with manslaughter. A charge of murder would never succeed and nor should it. I don't believe for one minute that he intended to kill that day. He was however shall we say "over enthusiastic" with his "official thuggery".
I saw just a few minutes ago on BBC news that he had previously arrested someone that day for graphiti on a police van and allegedly had also pushed a camera man, who thought he'd been attacked by a protestor, to the floor.
Officer Harwood, and I use that title most reluctantly, has to learn that he can't go around, dressed in protective police gear, assaulting people left right and centre. He also needs to learn that lying to an inquest jury doesn't work.
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Tue May 03, 2011 5:49 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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There is no statute of limitations on murder. I think that they can still press murder charges. The problem will be intent. If he meant to kill him then yes Murder would be the appropriate charge. This was meant to cause harm not necessarily death. That makes it manslaughter, though considering that he is a police officer he should do double sentence because the police are expected to maintain the law not break it. Also a charge of manslaughter should be leveled at the Met for covering up much of the details.
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Tue May 03, 2011 8:49 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
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Manslaughter for Harwood, perverting the course of justice for the Met. Specifically the chief constable if they can't find anyone else. Jon
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Tue May 03, 2011 8:52 pm |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
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So do I. I want to be wrong on my assumption, but we’ve seen this kind of thing slip through the net in the past due to time limits.
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Tue May 03, 2011 9:03 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Yes to all that though a corporate manslaughter charge against the Met will mean a fine, since there is no one person to held accountable. Probably a bigger fine than perverting the course of justive would entail.
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Tue May 03, 2011 10:23 pm |
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JohnSheridan
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:10 pm Posts: 1057
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Another "thug in a uniform"
Lets hope justice prevails this time.
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Wed May 04, 2011 6:29 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Amnesia10
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I do hope that they have suspended him. Though probably on full pay. 
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Tue May 24, 2011 11:42 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
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Good - I’m glad this has happened. Now for a fair trial.
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Tue May 24, 2011 11:45 am |
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bobbdobbs
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm Posts: 5490 Location: just behind you!
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Is that the guilty until found guilty approach 
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