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According to the marketing slogan it is a taste that you either love or hate. But Danes will no longer get the chance to make up their own minds on Marmite after the British delicacy was banned under food safety laws.

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A spokesman for the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration said: "I cannot comment on the Marmite case because our expert is away until Thursday."

LMAO

I guess Denmark isn't in the EU then? I always thought it was.

They do have a point though, about "Many well known breakfast cereal and drink brands have already been banned or taken off supermarket shelves after Danish legislation in 2004 restricted foods fortified with extra vitamins or minerals"

It's difficult to see the difference between "food supplements" or "supplemented foods" and medicine. You can't buy Slow K over the counter, but you can buy Special K. Why? Doctors do not generally recommend self-medication, and it's a proven fact that excessive consumption of some vitamins and minerals can be extremely detrimental to health.

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The general principle of EU law on this matter is what's legal to sell in one EU country is legal to sell in all the others.

Naturally there are exceptions, but they're supposed to be few and far between, must be on public health/public policy grounds, and must also be agreed by the European Commission.

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They do have a point though, about "Many well known breakfast cereal and drink brands have already been banned or taken off supermarket shelves after Danish legislation in 2004 restricted foods fortified with extra vitamins or minerals"

It's difficult to see the difference between "food supplements" or "supplemented foods" and medicine. You can't buy Slow K over the counter, but you can buy Special K. Why? Doctors do not generally recommend self-medication, and it's a proven fact that excessive consumption of some vitamins and minerals can be extremely detrimental to health.

I must admit that I avoid fortified cereals. As for marmite you are supposed to use it sparingly but can you OD on marmite?

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must be on public health/public policy grounds, and must also be agreed by the European Commission.

A very quick Google failed to find the relevant 2004 laws or any European commission agreement. That doesn't mean there wasn't one, but given that so many EU countries take no notice of EU law it would not surprise me if this has gone unchallenged for 7 years.

Do you need a bucket of cash to bring a question before the commission, or can you just email them?

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Do you need a bucket of cash to bring a question before the commission, or can you just email them?

Just contact your MEP, who will pass your question along to the relevant Commissioner.

Also, IIRC, each product to be "banned" must be agreed by the Commission.

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Also, IIRC, each product to be "banned" must be agreed by the Commission.

Blimey. I imagine that would keep "them" busy for centuries given the very many thousands of products involved.

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I was just in Denmark, and after speaking to the gf's father about foodstuffs said I would take some marmite over next time I visit. It looks like I may be smuggling illegal products now. :lol:

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Just had to throw out a Tesco Danish loaf - tasted like fcuking soap! :evil:


I've seen Danish loaves in Sainsburys, the Danish gf denies ever having seen anything like it in Denmark.


Having just spent a week there I visited several supermarkets and bakers, after checking the entire product range at every location I can confirm that no such loaf exists in the area of Denmark that I went to.

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Mail order, anyone? The law says it can't be "sold", not "consumed", so buy it in Sweden or Norway.

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According to the foodie person here it's down to the fact that it has added vitamins. There was a scare over Vitamin A and pregnant women years back but Marmite doesn't even have added vitamin A so she wasn't sure what's going on really.

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Today’s Guardian has the story that Denmark is to ban Marmite. As the FT’s Stanley Pignal quipped on Twitter, is this the next step (after new customs controls, despite Schengen) from Denmark’s populist Dansk Folkeparti to keep foreigners away by banning their foods?

While the idea of Pia Kjærsgaard lobbing jars of Marmite across the border is an amusing one, the case is an interesting matter of EU versus national law, and that law is not on Copenhagen’s side.

Essentially EU food law is supreme over national food law, and has been for years in the EU’s single market. This means that a product that is safe for sale in one EU Member State is allowed to be sold in other Member States. This is the reason why France, who had banned Red Bull, is now obliged to allow it to be sold.

The Danish Marmite case also has parallels with a case from 2008 when a UK firm based in Barnsley used EU law to export baguettes to France. In that circumstance French bread law prevented the use of hydrogenated fats in baking, while EU law did not prevent this, allowing the UK firm to export. The Danish Marmite case is the same. Even if the 2004 Danish law mentioned in The Guardian’s article did rule the yeast spread to be unsafe, since it is still legal for sale in the UK and legal under EU law there should be nothing that the officials from the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration can do about it.

If the folks from Abigail’s Food Store in Copenhagen want to keep stocking Marmite they should explain this Barnsley baguette case to the Danish authorities, and might – eventually – have to take a case before the European Court of Justice, but the chances of winning that case would be very high.

In addition to the main gist of this story, I have searched to check what derogations Denmark has from EU food law, and have found this page from the Danish Parliament. The only cases where Denmark is allowed to impose tougher standards is over the nitrite and nitrate content of foods but, as far as the ingredients of Marmite show, this should not be an issue here, and The Guardian story states the reason is the vitamin supplement, not nitrite and nitrate.

[UPDATE 25.5.11 - 0100]
A very similar issue has been ruled upon by the ECJ in 2003 in C-192/01. That case ruled against Denmark and in favour of free movement of products with vitamin supplements. So what’s different this time? In comparison to the anti-EU rubbish being spouted on politics.ie it would seem more and more likely that it will be EU law that will allow Marmite exports to Denmark to continue.

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