Reply to topic  [ 41 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3
Fake security software catches out Apple Mac owners 
Author Message
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm
Posts: 7173
Reply with quote
ProfessorF wrote:
I wonder what say, MS or Ubuntu would say if I presented to one of their support techs and said 'I've installed something I shouldn't have and now it's being a nuisance, can you delete it for me?'


MS would say "Do you have a retail or OEM product?"

Canonical would say "Have you bought a support package?"

If something goes wrong with their device, first stop for customers is usually the manufacturer be that HP or Apple. Since Apple make both the hardware and OS, they're going to encounter both types of support query.

_________________
timark_uk wrote:
That's your problem. You need Linux. That'll fix all your problems.
Mark


Sat May 21, 2011 3:39 pm
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm
Posts: 8767
Location: behind the sofa
Reply with quote
Linux_User wrote:
first stop for customers is usually the manufacturer be that HP or Apple.

HP would say "Use the restore function. If you've deleted it, you can download the re-installation discs from our website. Then recover your data from your backups."

_________________
jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly."

When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net


Sat May 21, 2011 4:35 pm
Profile WWW
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm
Posts: 12030
Reply with quote
And from the sounds of it, despite the 'official' line from HQ, that's more or less what most of the Apple support staff will suggest.
Roll it back via Time Machine, I'd imagine, or something else.

_________________
www.alexsmall.co.uk

Charlie Brooker wrote:
Windows works for me. But I'd never recommend it to anybody else, ever.


Sat May 21, 2011 5:08 pm
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
Posts: 17040
Reply with quote
Linux_User wrote:
If something goes wrong with their device, first stop for customers is usually the manufacturer be that HP or Apple

I'd argue with that. For the majority, the first stop would be the place they bought it. That could also be Apple in their particular example of course. In either case, Apple simply disavowing knowledge of the issue is just wrong. It's legally valid, although a bit horrible, to say 'you screwed it up, it's not part of the warranty, we won't fix it for you' but to actually lie to customers is never acceptable.

Jon


Sat May 21, 2011 5:18 pm
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
Posts: 17040
Reply with quote
Apple official knowledge base article, eventually.

Seems to be the current habit with Apple - dunno if their corporate cogs are just inert but they seem to be very slow off the mark with things recently.

Jon


Wed May 25, 2011 9:04 am
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm
Posts: 12030
Reply with quote
Quote:
In the coming days, Apple will deliver a Mac OS X software update that will automatically find and remove Mac Defender malware and its known variants. The update will also help protect users by providing an explicit warning if they download this malware.


Nice.

_________________
www.alexsmall.co.uk

Charlie Brooker wrote:
Windows works for me. But I'd never recommend it to anybody else, ever.


Wed May 25, 2011 9:45 am
Profile
Legend
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
Reply with quote
ProfessorF wrote:
Quote:
In the coming days, Apple will deliver a Mac OS X software update that will automatically find and remove Mac Defender malware and its known variants. The update will also help protect users by providing an explicit warning if they download this malware.


Nice.

+1 Not everyone is capable of making their machines secure. Though Apple should make users set up admin and user accounts to protect themselves as much as possible.

_________________
Do concentrate, 007...

"You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds."

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTk

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21


Wed May 25, 2011 9:49 am
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm
Posts: 10691
Location: Bramsche
Reply with quote
Linux_User wrote:
ProfessorF wrote:
I wonder what say, MS or Ubuntu would say if I presented to one of their support techs and said 'I've installed something I shouldn't have and now it's being a nuisance, can you delete it for me?'


MS would say "Do you have a retail or OEM product?"

Canonical would say "Have you bought a support package?"

If something goes wrong with their device, first stop for customers is usually the manufacturer be that HP or Apple. Since Apple make both the hardware and OS, they're going to encounter both types of support query.

Microsoft actually have a freephone number (at least in America) for dealing with the removal of malware from their products.

_________________
"Do you know what this is? Hmm? No, I can see you do not. You have that vacant look in your eyes, which says hold my head to your ear, you will hear the sea!" - Londo Molari

Executive Producer No Agenda Show 246


Wed May 25, 2011 1:55 pm
Profile ICQ
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:12 pm
Posts: 1171
Reply with quote
Quote:
Yesterday, 25 days after the Mac Defender malware began to appear in the wild, Apple finally responded. In a technical support note, “How to avoid or remove Mac Defender malware,” the company posted instructions for users to follow if they’ve encountered this malware specimen in the wild. It also promised a security update to remove infections automatically.

File that memo under, “Too little, too late.”

Within 12 hours of Apple’s announcement, the author of the original Mac Defender program had a new variant available that renders key portions of the current Mac Defender prevention plan obsolete.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/mac-malw ... rsion/3385

_________________
Image
Free Sim with £5 credit


Thu May 26, 2011 10:13 am
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
Posts: 17040
Reply with quote

The article is incorrect (IIRC) in at least one important respect - if you're Mac is vaguely up to date with security updates, 'open safe files after downloading' is switched off by default. That happened.. gosh, quite a while ago now. The new variant will only function as described if you've specifically gone in and switched it back on again. Which all the Apple security advisories very clearly tell you not to do.
Also, given Apple's security update isn't live yet, I don't see how this person can state categorically that this new variant will be able to defeat that when it arrives.

It's not very good journalism, I'm afraid.

Jon


Thu May 26, 2011 10:57 am
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm
Posts: 12251
Reply with quote
Apple is pushing out a fix soon, but a new variant called Mac Guard can apparently install itself without a password being rerquired.

Quote:
As Apple was releasing its fix for Mac Defender, the gang behind it had started distributing a new version.

Like older versions, the new one - called Mac Guard - is being spread by tying it to popular phrases typed into search engines.

Mac Guard also gets round one of the factors that limited the spread of Mac Defender as it no longer needs a user's permission to be installed.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13560137

The advice is the same as before - turning off Open Safe Files Automatically in Safari stops it doing this.

_________________
All the best,
Paul
brataccas wrote:
your posts are just combo chains of funny win

I’m on Twitter, tweeting away... My Photos Random Avatar Explanation


Thu May 26, 2011 12:13 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 41 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 18 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software.