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Doctor that gets shot is a Living Flesh clone anyone?
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Anyone?

I thought the same.

This is what I think too, but that may be too obvious. This is Moffat, you know.

I watched it with a friend, and we both knew her from somewhere but couldn't place it. Turns out she's been in loads of things.

She's absolutely lovely, and I thought she was just brilliant portraying the range of craziness called for in this double role. She's wonderfully expressive, a characteristic I find incredibly attractive. I think I want to marry her

Randomly ended up watching Wallander later on in Swedish, because she wasn't in it

Oh yes, the episode. It was rather good and I'm very much looking forward to the next one. I don't think there's much use in speculating, but I did have a conversation about "clones". If a perfect human clone might possess a soul, might a perfect Timelord clone also be a timelord? Of course it's a mute point, because it's fiction. If you define "soul" as something given by god, then that's fiction to me just as much as timelords are given by, err, Matthew Graham in this case.

Of course, the good Doctor did actually lose his sole at one point. "Important question - does anyone have a pair of shoes I can borrow?"

I also watched that. It's a very good show.

Mark

Talking about these two part episodes with the wife last night got me to thinking how much I preferred the 6 or 7 parters in "the old days"

Does anyone else agree, or am I getting old faster than I should be?

In "the old days" the episodes were only 20 minutes, so this two parter could have taken 6 episodes. I also found that they were rather dragged out at times; I'm sure I remember they repeated some of them in condensed forms without losing much.

Also, I think the new series has much bigger sub-plots which last the entire season or even longer. I don't recall such depth of story telling in the old days. Maybe I was just too young to notice it?

I do have quite a few DVDs of the older series, but I only watched them once about 10 years ago when I first got them. I've not felt the inclination to revisit since. I like the new series.

I'm all caught up now.

Anyone who knows the Isle of Sheppey would have had a little chuckle about that reference.



I think that's an important plot point, because the different shoes may be the only way to identify the true Doctor...

I thought that also.

Hmmm - so not the fez then. I was also wondering if the TARDIS could also be copied. But that would be absurd, right?

Some screenies:

The Impossible Astronaut - the Doctor off the be shot:

(Black shoes)

Day of the moon - Chained up Doctor

(Black shoes)

Curse of the Black Spot

(Black shoes)

Promo pic for The Doctor’s Wife:

(Brown shoes)

Hmm - so maybe the shoes are important for the story - but perhaps not for the whole series.

Brilliance!

I hadn't realised that at all. Thanks

+1. What an ending.

+2 I agree. I had thought that eps 5+6 were mediocre at best, until I saw that ending.

I agree that the ending was definitely a shock and a "somewhat pleasant" unexpected twist.

However...

Again, i find it's similar to the curveball they threw in the very first episode (with regards to seeing the Doctor die)... whilst i disliked that one because it's a cliffhanger spanning an entire season... i didn't like this (in execution, not in concept) simply because it came out of nowhere.

Apparently it's supposed to have been like this since the very beginning of the season and IMO just not very Who-like... that is to have it just "as it is". Normally i would have expected maybe a few hints here and there (yes, there's the eyepatch lady, but you have no clue what she's about) and probably an inconsistency here and there which would suggest something "happened".