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Acer founder: 'Tablets, ultrabooks just a fad'
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paulzolo
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Same would be true of a Microsoft or Google offering. All companies want you pinned to their own little ecosystem. Hooray for DropBox, I say!
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Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:53 pm |
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bobbdobbs
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Local storage FTMFW, with a server set up to access data from anywhere. All located under my control.
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Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:05 pm |
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JJW009
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And all backed up to "the cloud". You can have the best of both.
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Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:11 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Yes but dropbox or any other such service gives you access anywhere where you can get access to your drop box whether that is wirelessly or via the internet . Millions of users will and have accepted the limitations of a number of companies ecosystems. RIM found that they could get millions of users to accept their ecosystem.
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Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:42 pm |
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bobbdobbs
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Yes but Dropbox gives or any other such service gives access anywhere to anyone depending on what security snafu happens and they do with monotonous regularity plus with governments as they are who's to say when they have a "proactive" trawl to see if your upto something your not. <supertinfoil hat now on>
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Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:12 am |
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Amnesia10
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I agree that security at any of the online services needs to be tightened. I encrypt as much as possible but programs that sync via drop box have yet to catch up.
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Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:45 pm |
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big_D
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So, we need a tablet at work, well, 8 actually, for a customer...
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Min 8 hour battery life Must run Java (full Java, not bastardised Android version). 10" - 12" display
Which kicks out all Android tablets and the iPad - neither OS has a Java VM, Android comes the closest, but its implementation does not include the standard Java libraries, especially when it comes to communication.
Basically, it must be a Windows or Linux tablet - the underlying operating system is irrelevant, as long as it has a fully functioning Java runtime VM.
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Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:36 pm |
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Amnesia10
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 |  |  |  | big_D wrote: So, we need a tablet at work, well, 8 actually, for a customer...
Requirements:
Min 8 hour battery life Must run Java (full Java, not bastardised Android version). 10" - 12" display
Which kicks out all Android tablets and the iPad - neither OS has a Java VM, Android comes the closest, but its implementation does not include the standard Java libraries, especially when it comes to communication.
Basically, it must be a Windows or Linux tablet - the underlying operating system is irrelevant, as long as it has a fully functioning Java runtime VM. |  |  |  |  |
Are there many such tablets available?
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Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:01 pm |
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big_D
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Unfortunately not. 
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:16 am |
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Amnesia10
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I suspect that they will remain rare. Apple have the tablet market sewn up. Could these apps be rewritten for iOS? Though I do wonder if they can be used without going via the Apple App store. The last thing a private company wants is its software for sale on the App Store for its competitors.
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:09 am |
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ProfessorF
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Surely it's time, then, for your customer to reconsider their requirements? I'd like a car that runs on fresh air, but unfortunately the market doesn't seem to make them...
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:40 am |
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Amnesia10
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That was why I thought could it be rewritten for iOS? There do not seem to be any disputes that Apple will still dominate the tablet market in 2020.
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:32 am |
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JJW009
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The requirements are often out of your control. Like for example, I'd like the BT Wholesale website to work on a browser other than IE4 but how exactly am I going to do that? Threaten to fire bomb their wives and babies if they don't make it happen? Until it changes, all resellers are required to use an obsolete browser.
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:47 pm |
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ProfessorF
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I appreciate that, but if the simple fact of the matter is that the client wants something that doesn't exist, they're either going to have to change their criteria or build something entirely bespoke. Their call.
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:59 pm |
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big_D
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If you've invested 150,000€ in a system and you want to move from a laptop to a tablet form factor, you are going to invest money in a 8 devices, with a total price, hopefully, of under 10,000€, as opposed to rewriting the whole system to work in Objective C or Android... The problem is, at CeBIT this year a lot of manufacturers presented tablets that would be suitable. Until now, only Fujitsu (an old stalwart of the Tablet space) has released one, but they've since removed it from sale again.
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