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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... death.htmlabout time one scum bag down, one law abiding person can now go about there law abiding business ...
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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Good!
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:13 pm |
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AlunD
Site Admin
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am Posts: 7011 Location: Wiltshire
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Totally agree 
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:23 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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+1. It really never should have reached that point.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:29 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Holy Common Sense Batman! 
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:49 pm |
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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Actually I have no porblem with the police investigating - afterall someone was killed - so long as common sense is used
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:27 pm |
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james016
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 5:52 pm Posts: 1899
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+100
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:26 pm |
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Amnesia10
Legend
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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No problems with investigating but why arrest someone and ruin their lives for how many months this takes?
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:50 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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You'll probably find that if someone dies from anything other than natural causes that either someone or something was at fault. Therefore the police are called in to investigate, and upon their findings the CPS decide if charges should be pressed. In a decent and competent society the shop keeper should have known that his actions were appropriate and that there would be no repercussions, and that at the end of the investigation there would be no chance of further charges. If that was the case then there would be nothing to worry about, and so the time scale would represent only due process.
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:35 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Yes we should encourage the investigations, but until the case actually is going to go to court why arrest them? This florist will have had his DNA and fingerprints taken, and will now be on a no-fly list to some places, and yet is completely innocent. He will not be able to get the DNA and fingerprints destroyed and will forever remain in the PNC.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:30 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Not being able to fly to the US, what a loss. 
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:17 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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I agree but it is the principle.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:41 pm |
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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The keeping of DNA / Fingerprints is a seperate issue. Personally if you are not ultimatly charged then they should be destroyed within a fix period of time - say 6 months IF you are charged and convicted they should still be destroyed after a period of time - say 2 x your sentence so if you were sentenced to 5 yrs in jail your DNA / fingerprints would remain on file for 10 yrs. Certain crimes could have an unlimited period (murder etc)
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Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:59 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Well the thing is that even if you are convicted of a minor offence they go on the database for life. Also if you volunteer your DNA as part of a mass screening in many cases it is still kept, yet you were not even charged or arrested. Also how do we know that they are destroyed? We have to take their word for that.
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Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:49 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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