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X404 theme blowing up fonts
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big_D
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I'm experiencing a problem with the X404 phpbb theme. When it shows on my Firefox, the font is much larger than normal and characters like "w" are fuzzy.
This isn't happening on Internet Explorer or on my mobile.
I restarted Firefox in safemode, which didn't help, then I reset my addons, which did work, the fonts were back to "normal" size (like in subsilver2, which I am currently using). But NoScript had blocked the site, because it had been reset. As soon as I enabled X404 in NoScript, the fonts blew up again, disabling X404 in NoScript and the problem goes away.
I'll try and work through the source code for the page, but anyone have any ideas? I first noted that the script was a little on the large size and fuzzy a week or so ago, but didn't do anything about it then. I thought it was the zoom factor in Firefox at first and put it down 2 or 3 notches, which is the size I "remember". I then hit Ctrl+0 to reset the zoom factor and it went back to the jumbo size again...
Edit: for reference Firefox 12 and 13 on Windows 7 64-bit, 1920x1080 resolution on a 15.4" display.
Has somebody put in a "retina" hack on the theme? 1920x1080 is fairly high dpi for a 15.6" screen, but the standard layout (subsilver2) size is fine.
Edit 2: prosilver also blows up, marginaly, but not as badly as the x404 theme.
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Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:24 pm |
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finlay666
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FWIW Firefox has had 'issues' redering some special fonts, there was a bug in Cufon that made fonts that were bold extra bold, making them too fat for use. Could be a similar issue as IIRC that was a javascript system
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Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:35 pm |
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big_D
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Could be something in that direction. I just tried zooming in with subsilver2 and it doesn't show the artifacts tha prosilver and x404 themes display with fuzzy text.
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Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:45 pm |
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saspro
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I'd say it's a Firefox issue as no code has been changed on this site for ages (probably a year of so for the core forum stuff)
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Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:54 pm |
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Linux_User
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I agree it must be a quirk with Firefox, on the two machines I have available to test with the site looks fine in Chrome but dodgy in Firefox.
Tested with Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows 7.
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Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:01 pm |
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big_D
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Thanks Linux_User, looks like I'll have to stick with subsilver2 until Mozilla sort that out...
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Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:50 pm |
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rustybucket
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FF13 on Xubuntu 11.10 - no problems
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Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:37 pm |
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belchingmatt
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A couple of months ago I had an issue with firefox. When I clicked in the address or search boxes everything selected was given a drop shadow. It's stopped now and I never learnt what caused it.
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:53 am |
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pcernie
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It's FF, on tablet 'Droid this forum needs a magnifying glass 
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:24 am |
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rustybucket
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Any chance of a screenie, Dave? It's just that I can't see a difference between browsers on three different OSes. 
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Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:18 pm |
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paulzolo
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It‘s not something peculiar to German localisation? It seems odd that Firefox would be using its own rendering engine for fonts when there will be libraries in the OS for just that.
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Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:00 pm |
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big_D
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 The page loads with the correct size font, then the javascript loads afterwards and the text on the page blows up. Left is subsilver2, right X404. If you look at the "w" in "what" on the X404 image, you can see what the biggest problem is, with the rendering of the fonts being screwed up.
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Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:14 am |
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rustybucket
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Just so you know - the X404 theme has always been massive but it's equally as ignorant of font sizes in Chromium, Firefox or Opera. Can you screenie a side-by-side of the x404 theme in FF and Chrome? Edit: Here's what I see - with Firefox on the left, Chromium in the middle and Opera on the right. 
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Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:49 pm |
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ProfessorF
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Not being a fan of the 'official' X404 theme, I use subsilver 2. Which is my preferred theme for all php boards, tbh.
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Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:49 pm |
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big_D
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It works fine at work, it is only my home machine...
I tried de-installing and re-installing and I tried starting in safe mode, even deleted my profile.
It is down to JavaScript on the site, disabling JavaScript means the page is displayed correctly, as soon as JavaScript is re-enabled the page loads correctly then, once it has finished downloading, the text size increases.
Really crazy.
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