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Did you ever play the Punisher game? I loved it in that you had the ability to torture people for information - they did a little of this in the first film but I don't recall it in the second.


Got it, one of the better comic book games :geek:

In terms of films they really need a new angle on Frank, and to get him out of New York for a bit I'd argue. He needs a story much bigger than his own, basically.

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^^^But that could be said about most of the comic book characters.


Most have a bit more going on than 'family killed, on vigilante warpath', which is pretty much all Frank is.

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In terms of films they really need a new angle on Frank, and to get him out of New York for a bit I'd argue. He needs a story much bigger than his own, basically.


I can see him perhaps being a second string character to something - Wolverine maybe?
Wait - no - the Eminem crossover that actually happened.

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Serge and Vigo are not portrayed by the same actor! For a long time, I thought they were. (Beverly Hills Cop and Ghostbusters II)

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In space, everything is weightless, astronauts can push objects around the cabin and they will float in a straight line.


But a 10kg object would be ten times difficult to push than a 1kg object, and some things that are heavy enough, would be almost impossible to push even if they were floating in "mid-air".


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In space, everything is weightless, astronauts can push objects around the cabin and they will float in a straight line.


But a 10kg object would be ten times difficult to push than a 1kg object, and some things that are heavy enough, would be almost impossible to push even if they were floating in "mid-air".
Isn't it just physics?
If the mass of that which you want to push is less than the mass of that which is pushing, does the item with the least mass not yield to the pressure from that with the greater mass?

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What I wanna know is whether a 10kg mass in space is easier to push than a 10kg mass on earth?

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Isn't it just physics?


Yes of course, but I still never associated mass with "difficulty to push", I'd always thought about it as being "very heavy" therefore difficult to push.

A misconception that comes from living in gravity I suppose.


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What I wanna know is whether a 10kg mass in space is easier to push than a 10kg mass on earth?


Yes, because of friction, on a hypothetical frictionless sheet of ice or suspended from a frictionless rail on Earth, they would be just as difficult/easy to push as in space.


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But wouldn't gravity make it more difficult by providing the mass with weight?

What's ridiculous is that I used to know all this crap when I did Physics A-level and I've long since forgotten.

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But wouldn't gravity make it more difficult by providing the mass with weight?

What's ridiculous is that I used to know all this crap when I did Physics A-level and I've long since forgotten.


Only if you wanted to push it "up". Pushing parallel to gravity would be the same as in space, with no friction or air resistance of course.


GCSE physics at work here :p


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Correctomundo!

What you're talking about is momentum (ie an objects willingness to stay in its current state and not move) and overcoming this. Whether this is pushing it to speed up or slowing it down you are overcoming momentum.

The equation for momentum is...

Momentum = mass * velocity (I think)

Weight, gravity and everything else is irrelevant.

Therefore pushing an object in the weightlessness of space is just has hard as it would be to push it on the earth.

(Ignoring the friction that you would have to overcome. Pretend it's on a frictionless rail).

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What you're talking about is momentum (ie an objects willingness to stay in its current state and not move) and overcoming this. Whether this is pushing it to speed up or slowing it down you are overcoming momentum.


You meant inertia, didn't you?

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One thing I do know is that if you look at a picture of the inside of the space shuttle, the switches have little metal guards around them. These are as much to give the astronaut an anchor, as they are to prevent accidental operation. Otherwise the simple action of pressing a switch can send the astronaut backwards from the console.

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