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Alan Jones
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August 16, 2012 9:10AM
THE British government has told Ecuador it is "determined" to extradite WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who is seeking political asylum, and believes it can forcibly enter the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

A number of police officers gathered outside the Ecuadorian embassy, close to the Harrods store in Knightsbridge, on Wednesday night.

The dramatic development comes two months after Assange, an Australian, suddenly walked into the embassy in June in a bid to avoid being extradited to Sweden where he faces allegations of sexual assault.

Ecuador's minister for foreign affairs, Ricardo Patino, on Wednesday released details of a letter he said was delivered through a British embassy official in the capital of the South American country, Quito.

The letter said: "You need to be aware that there is a legal base in the UK, the Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act 1987, that would allow us to take actions in order to arrest Mr Assange in the current premises of the Embassy.

"We sincerely hope that we do not reach that point, but if you are not capable of resolving this matter of Mr Assange's presence in your premises, this is an open option for us."

An Ecuadorian government spokesman said he was "deeply shocked" by the British government's "threats".

The Ecuadorian government spokesman said: "We are deeply shocked by the British government's threats against the sovereignty of the Ecuadorian embassy and their suggestion that they may forcibly enter the embassy.

"This a clear breach of international law and the protocols set out in the Vienna Convention.

"Throughout the last 56 days Mr Julian Assange has been in the embassy, the Ecuadorian government has acted honourably in all our attempts to seek a resolution to the situation.

"This stands in stark contrast to the escalation of the British government today with their threats to break down the door of the Ecuadorian embassy.

"Instead of threatening violence against the Ecuadorian embassy, the British government should use its energy to find a peaceful resolution to this situation which we are aiming to achieve."

The letter to Ecuador added: "We need to reiterate that we consider the continued use of the diplomatic premises in this way incompatible with the Vienna Convention and unsustainable and we have made clear the serious implications that this has for our diplomatic relations."

Assange denies the allegations against him, but fears he will be sent to the United States if he goes to Sweden.

An offer to the Swedish authorities by Ecuador for investigators to interview Assange inside the London embassy was rejected.

A British Foreign Office spokeswoman said: "We have consistently made our position clear in our discussions with the government of Ecuador.

"The UK has a legal obligation to extradite Mr Assange to Sweden to face questioning over allegations of sexual offences and we remain determined to fulfil this obligation.

"We have an obligation to extradite Mr Assange and it is only right that we give Ecuador the full picture.

"Throughout this process we have drawn the Ecuadorians' attention to relevant provisions of our law, whether, for example, the extensive human rights safeguards in our extradition procedures, or the legal status of diplomatic premises in the UK.

"We are still committed to reaching a mutually acceptable solution."

Patino added later: "The government of Ecuador is considering a request for asylum and has carried out diplomatic talks with the governments of the United Kingdom and Sweden. However, today we received from the United Kingdom a written threat that they could attack our embassy in London if Ecuador does not give up Julian Assange.

"Ecuador, as a state that respects rights and justice and is a democratic and peaceful nation state, rejects in the strongest possible terms the explicit threat of the British official communication.

"This is unbecoming of a democratic, civilised and law abiding state. If this conduct persists, Ecuador will take appropriate responses in accordance with international law.

"If the measures announced in the British official communication materialise they will be interpreted by Ecuador as a hostile and intolerable act and also as an attack on our sovereignty, which would require us to respond with greater diplomatic force.

"Such actions would be a blatant disregard of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and of the rules of international law of the past four centuries.

"It would be a dangerous precedent because it would open the door to the violation of embassies as a declared sovereign space."

Patino said the situation affected all American states, so the government of Ecuador shall request the convening of a meeting of ministers from across the region.

He added: "The protection that Ecuador offers Mr Assange is based on universal principles and our respect for human rights and no threats of force or unilateral action towards our country will see us can waive these principles."


I'm on my phone so it's the mobile site, but http://mobile.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/uk-govt-threatens-to-enter-ecuador-embassy/story-e6frfkui-1226451456350

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The UK threatens to invade foreign soil. Sadly this is not a new phenomenon.

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"Throughout this process we have drawn the Ecuadorians' attention to relevant provisions of our law, whether, for example, the extensive human rights safeguards in our extradition procedures..."

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This could all turn very bad, I reckon.

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the UK being the puppies of the good old OSofA just goes to show that we can no longer direct our own future decisions in regard to international affairs

all this guy ever done was show up the USofA by releasing documents (secret or otherwise)

the USofA really need to get a life, but they cant and the reason why, its called the 'patriot' act ...

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I wonder if the UK would act the same way if the chap were in an embassy belonging to, say, China, South Korea, Iran etc? Doubt it.

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Geez, as if our relations with half of South & Central America aren't screwed already...


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sheer bloody stupidity - its nothing to do with us anyway. :roll:

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I wonder if the UK would act the same way if the chap were in an embassy belonging to, say, China, South Korea, Iran etc? Doubt it.

I wonder how outraged the Foreign Office would be if a foreign country decided to raid one of our embassies?

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Never mind. How they plan on getting Assange from the embassy to a diplomatic car outside without him getting arrested would be interesting. If he ever does get to Ecuador, it will only be a matter of time before the USA “extracts” him. No doubt with that “extreme prejudice” they like to talk about.

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I think Assange may be just about too high profile for them to try any funny stuff. If he went to Ecuador (or Sweden if the British police get hold of him) and he just disappeared, that would be carte blanche for every anti-US conspiracy theorist and, in future, just about anyone the US wanted to get their hands on could legitimately claim political asylum just about anywhere.

We know ER goes on but they get away with it because it's people hardly anybody knows and it mainly happens in countries that are far away. ER'ing someone who has been on the front page of pretty much every newspaper in the western world from an EU country? That's a whole different kettle of fish.

This is why they have taken the legal route so far, because they can do that in the full glare of publicity. The attention is forcing them to 'play nice'.

As to whether the Equadorians could get him out, it kind of depends on exactly what the Embassy consists of. If it's just the buidling then yes, he will have to return to British jurisdiction to leave and they can nick him. If there's a way to get an official car onto 'Equadorian soil', then they probably can't.

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In theory, could they give him citizenship, then make him a temporary diplomat. That would give him diplomatic immunity from local law enforcement.

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They should just do it. Stop pussyfooting around, get the guns out and just storm the place.
That'd be good TV viewing, at least.

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What's the hurry? Why are we in a rush to get him out of there?

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