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Amnesia10
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19942378Great news but I doubt that the Tories will even consider such advice.
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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TBH I wouldn't change the policy either.
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:33 am |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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It was the police who got cannabis back to class B IIRC Over here it tends to be a caution, maybe a small fine with it. Even if it's just cosmetic, I'd sooner have that than people starting drug habits who otherwise might not have. I suspect we'd be on a slippery slope in a country that struggles with booze, but that's my speculation 
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:27 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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^^^that's always been by argument for not legalising drugs here. We have so many issues with people not drinking responsibly that you can imagine similar problems with drugs. I would argue we are not sensible like amsterdam or other parts of Europe.
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:43 pm |
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tombolt
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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Thing is though is that people look at drugs with the cultural bias of alcohol. All drugs have their downsides, but alcohol is one of the most socially damaging, so people tend to think of other drugs as being so.
Most of the issues with drugs come from the fact that they're illegal.
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:49 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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They are not planning on legalising just se criminalising for possession of small amounts. Though since drug runners only carry one deal at a time they might need to rethink it a bit.
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Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:51 pm |
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pcernie
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Legalising them wouldn't be the answer for the people I've known down the years, they're addicted to the weak stuff as it is. If we're getting all high and mighty these days about alcohol, cigs and food, why introduce a new addiction? IMO. Giving drugs to people who believe in the meta situation of what they read in the papers and the likes of X-Factor is not the answer  . Well, unless the question is 'How can the coalition distract the public?'
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Amnesia10
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Though will decriminalising that make any difference to them? Those that are addicted will not change. I certainly would not think of it as that. Decriminalising has been a regular topic for years.
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Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:00 am |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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I think decriminalising it would make a difference to them, since their dealers will probably have to move to stronger stuff to stay relevant. The truly paranoid aren't likely to take up government-backed dope 
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:52 am |
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Amnesia10
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Yes but de criminalising it is not the same as legalising it. If they legalised drugs they could have other problems. Also small amounts would be ignored unless you were a runner. It would target police resources higher up the supply chain. Though lengthy sentences for celebrity druggies might stop it being cool.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:36 pm |
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pcernie
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Sorry, that's what happens when you come back to a thread you couldn't reply to in work I see decriminalising it again as the first step to legalising it for sale (taxing it etc), and I'm assuming the government and police do too... 'Well, it's not illegal in small amounts, why shouldn't everybody have the choice?'. Because even Amsterdam is slowly scaling it back, for one thing?
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:51 pm |
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forquare1
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:36 pm Posts: 5161 Location: /dev/tty0
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And I think that is where the abuse of alcohol is from, at least partially. I know many people who's parents refused them alcohol before they were 18, most of them went behind their parent's backs and binged, else they binged when they were finally allowed to buy their own legally. Personally, my parents taught me how to drink responsibly, and by and large I have done so. Yes I've been sick from drinking too much, but then I've been sick from eating too much ice cream... I did start to think, I know bleach has obvious good uses, but there are other, safer, and more eco friendly alternatives. Bleach is pretty bad for you if you ingest it, but it is widely available for you to do so...
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Amnesia10
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Legalising could take decades. Though I do not see harder drugs like heroin becoming legal. The biggest problem with heroin is not the drug itself. It is all the cutting agents that are used to cut heroin. If you saw the state of an addicts veins you would understand. These are what cause the bulk of problems with collapsed veins and all the problems that follow. I am not saying that it should be legalised but what ever we have now is not working.
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